I have heard alot about Ford buying up Jag but I keep getting different years from different sources....Can anybody tell me when this happened and if i am one of the lucky ones that has a real Jag????

 

1997 was the last year that the British made Jaguar. I believe that in 1989 Ford took over Jaguar only certain areas of the car. The chassis was still british along with many other parts. In 1998 Ford made the Stype and Xtype Jaguars that are basically the same as a Ford Tarus, and a Lincon. the XJ6 95-97 are suppoed to be the best jaguars ever made and are the last years that the car was "A REAL JAG"

 

So i did pretty good getting this car huh?
You sure make me feel good about the car my friend .....
I'm a official REAL JAG owner!!!

 

Heh heh. Who made them afterwards? The Greeks? The Columbians?

If a car rolls out of a building in Britain that says "Jaguar" on the sign, using employees who live in Britain and presumably are mostly of British heritage, I'd say the car was "built by the British".




So, anyone owning a '98 or later has a "fake" Jag ? :-)


Cheers
DD

 

Jag is build in britan by brits.
The owners have right of making the decesion.
Still X300 should be the a best line manufactured car.

 

False.

There is no connection whatsoever between a Ford Taurus and an X-Type. The S-type and Lincoln LS platforms (chassis) were co-developed by Jaguar/Ford as a joint venture. All S-types were built by Jaguar in England.

If we want to get 'snobby' about lineage and components, best keep the hood shut and not look underneath the car, you may be disappointed to see how many components were sourced in from run-of-the-mill American cars.

 

If we're just talking parts content, not very many parts in the X300 are Ford. I know the throttle position switch on my '96 is stamped Ford.

 

I believe many of the X300s have a lowly Chevrolet 4L80E transmission. Horrors!

 

I would have to agree that the X300 is a superb, reliable car. I bought mine in '07 with 120k miles. Routine maintenance, and consumable parts (belts, shocks, tires, etc.) have been the only necessary items with 2 exceptions: a broken headlight lens, and a rear view mirror - both of which were minor and inexpensive. Now at 162k miles, it still runs like new and has never failed me. Oh, yeah, it has what I call "nuisance" problems, like the clock and cup holder, but nothing that detracts from its daily use, or the compliments from those wishing they owned a Jag.

BTW, as I understood it, part of the agreement when Ford bought Jaguar was that Ford could not "tinker" with the Jaguar marque for several years. I see the Ford influence, ala Taurus/Sable, in the body design of the X & S Types, but I've also seen greater changes since the sale to Tata.

 

Lets not rubbish Ford here, Jaguar would not be here today without them.

Ford spent a king's ransom buying Jaguar then found out it needed another fortune to be spent equipping Jaguar to make the cars properly, instead of just throwing them together as they did with my 1980 XJ6 (bought in 1988, sold 2002). That car was a real looker, a stunner, a beautiful design, absolutely ruined by its build quality. I spent more than Jaguar over the years putting it right. OK, I should have got rid, but I was much younger then and maybe too naive and forgiving.

Ford started off by putting the XJ40s right in the early 90s, then got the curves put back in (X300s). There was then a bit of a wobble with the XJ8s with the awful V8 Nikasil engines, and useless upper cam chain tensioners, but eventually put right, then finally, the all-aluminium X350, my current car. I bought this at 7 years old and the quality compared to the previous XJ6 is 100 times better. It is a real technical tour-de-force which I call "my aircraft fuselage on four wheels" ! You really can't get better for the money.

Having spent a fortune, Ford then sold out, and Tata Motors of India are now reaping the profits Ford should have got.

 

And that says it all.

 

Same goes for Tata as well.

 

Very few of us would be on this forum if Ford had not bought Jag back in the day. I would never consider my 97 a Ford or even any XJ XK car a Ford. Are there Ford components? Yes, just look at the part numbers xxxx-xxxxxx-xx Those are Ford engineering numbers. Ford spent a whole bunch of money and resources (i heard the x350 body used nearly all the processing power of Ford's supercomputer to get it right) with Jag. They realized that they had to trim their lines. Jag, LR, Volvo, AM (more Jag parts in there than anyone wants to talk about) were all too much to keep dumping money into because they all had their own architecture. Tata absolutely made a wonderful business decision in purchasing Jag/LR. Ford did all the work (and still does for Tata) and Tata takes home the profits. Take the emotion out of a business decision and we are left with better cars for the future and great memories (and great stories) of the past.