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97 X-308 Air Con needs a R-134a refill

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Old May 12, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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Default 97 X-308 Air Con needs a R-134a refill

Hi, Gents!

Summer is almost here and its time to get the X-308 air con working again.

Took her to a shop which opened late on Saturday night, but the inexperienced mechanic said the high-pressure charge valve which sits on top of the Receiver Drier Bottle under a black plastic cap is not the proper port to feed in the refrigerant; instead he asked me to show him where the low-pressure charge valve is located.

Is there such a low-pressure charge valve on an X-308?

A picture would be worth a thousand words. TIA.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 11:55 AM
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From the x308 Workshop Manual (see attached screenshot)
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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At least one of the side firewall covers and the center rear firewall cover needs to be removed to reveal the low side AC port (steps 2, 3 and 4 in the screenshot nilanium attached). Once these are off, there's plenty of room to attach a charging hose.
 

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Old May 12, 2018 | 06:06 PM
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Yep, the rear cover pops off and it's right there. I had to use that for some AC Pro recharging the first summer I had it when I drove to Louisiana and realized I had almost no cold air.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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Default A/C Problem resolved: A/C Pressure Sensor failure

I interrogated the fault codes stored in the A/C Control Module and obtained error code 23 which reads Refrigerant Pressure Switch malfunction.

When the wiring connector was pulled from the A/C pressure sensor, a shallow green pool of fluorescent fluid was visibly accumulated in the socket, indicating the switch has sprung a leak.

After replacing the Pressure Sensing Switch and an R134a refill and condenser hose down, arctic conditions returned to my Daimler X-308 LWB.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2018 | 02:04 PM
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On the 4th day after the A/C refrigerant recharge, the A/C stopped blowing cool air, and the refrigerant pipe at the Low-pressure filling port did not feel cold at all, with a low-pressure reading of only 20psi. As I needed to use the car, I simply refilled her to 40psi with R134a without checking for codes from the A/CCM as well as trying to add fluorescent leakage detection fluid to the A/C system to pinpoint the exact location(s) of the leakage. Will keep you guys posted after carrying out above procedures. Stay tuned...

Originally Posted by Pristine97XK8Convertible
I interrogated the fault codes stored in the A/C Control Module and obtained error code 23 which reads Refrigerant Pressure Switch malfunction.

When the wiring connector was pulled from the A/C pressure sensor, a shallow green pool of fluorescent fluid was visibly accumulated in the socket, indicating the switch has sprung a leak.

After replacing the Pressure Sensing Switch and an R134a refill and condenser hose down, arctic conditions returned to my Daimler X-308 LWB.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2018 | 05:12 PM
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For future search inquiries.


If your fouled switch is #LJA7658AB I source mine off E-Bay for under $20.
 

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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 01:01 AM
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Thank you, King Charles, for the video and pricing info.

LJA7658AB is indeed the Pressure sensor which I replaced. I don't know when did you source yours, but I just checked out eBay to find even used ones are being offered for not less than $30.

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If your fouled switch is #LJA7658AB I source mine off E-Bay for under $20.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pristine97XK8Convertible
Thank you, King Charles, for the video and pricing info.

LJA7658AB is indeed the Pressure sensor which I replaced. I don't know when did you source yours, but I just checked out eBay to find even used ones are being offered for not less than $30.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jaguar-XJ8-...3/282946672663

eBay item number : 282946672663
$19.99
 

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Old Jun 7, 2018 | 10:22 AM
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You do have a very sharp eye to locate the best offer on eBay.

Can you also confirm that when the Pressure Sensing Switch has been replaced, there is no need to vacuum/recharge the A/C system because the switch is screwed into a Schrader-type valve which prevents refrigerant from escaping when the switch is taken out?

Originally Posted by King Charles
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jaguar-XJ8-...3/282946672663

eBay item number : 282946672663
$19.99
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 10:36 AM
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I didn't need to recharge or pull a vacuum. Just don't overfill with AC PRO or you will be buying another switch. You can guess how I know! Might even be useful to leak off some freon to protect the new switch (don't do it if there are witnesses).
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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I rechecked if any codes have re-appeared in the ACCM, but it read 0 meaning none was present.

I used an ultra-violet flashlight going round the entire A/C system circuit and was quite shocked to find the fluorescent dye appearing in far far too many places than I'd expected, especially in many areas of the condenser ... Subsequently, I borrowed an electronic refrigerant leakage sniffer to try to pinpoint exactly where the leak(s) is coming from. Stay tuned for my sniffer test results when I absolutely need to find time to do the sniffing, maybe later today, because the in-laws are coming to town day after tomorrow, and I want to ferry them around in the Daimler to impress them with my English classic.

Incidentally, does anyone have any recommendations for any kind of A/C system stop-leak additives, and how effective or ineffective are they? Has any member actually used it to cure/stop the leak(s) on his A/C system? TIA.


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I didn't need to recharge or pull a vacuum. Just don't overfill with AC PRO or you will be buying another switch. You can guess how I know! Might even be useful to leak off some freon to protect the new switch (don't do it if there are witnesses).
 
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 01:18 PM
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Most of the do it yourself freon (AC Pro) fills have leak stop in their formula.
 
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