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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Found a set of R1 wheels for sale, they look pretty decent, but they've been curbed. As long as they aren't bent, cracked and hold air, they're probably ok to get? Price is cheap...I'm thinking either winter wheels or fix and flip them since I'm not in love with the styling. 4 hour drive to get to them, but the seller only wants $250 for the set.

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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 11:51 AM
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A flip could be worth it, but you are taking a chance and "ya never know what you're gonna get."
 
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 11:55 AM
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True enough, probably not worth the time investment of the drive for me. Basically looking for winter wheels and tires for my XJR and these came acrss my screen.

Would 18" Jag "Rapiers" fit? I think they're x350 wheels?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 01:53 PM
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X350 wheels will not fit due to the lug pattern. If I were you, I’d get those R1’s. That’s cheap enough minus the 8 hours time and gas cost but, I don’t think you’d lose if you resold them later.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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Where did you find these? I've been looking for wheels for a couple months now and nothing...haha. I had the R1 package with the Milans on my 2003 XJR and to be honest they were a bit of a nightmare. None were curbed but could not get them to balance properly. Turned out 3 of them were bent and had to have them repaired. After that they were OK. Not sure if it's an issue with all of the BBS wheels, but in my limited experience and from hearing others talk they do get out of round quite easily. I think 18"+ wheels look great on these cars, but I really perfer a bit more sidewall to prevent issues like this. My wife's 2016 Regal GS has 19" wheels and that has been a tire killer. Wheels have been great but she's destroyed 2 tires already. 20" wheels were an option on that car and really glad I didn't go for them...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
Where did you find these? I
They're damn close to Canada to be honest, lol.

Might grab em, not sure yet if I want to spend 8 hours in the truck to go get em. Might see if the seller ever comes down towards me.

X350 wheels will not fit due to the lug pattern.


Thanks sir, saved me some hassle. 5x108 I beleive, right? Offset range that'll work without spacers or anything would be...what?

 
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 08:31 PM
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x308 wheels are 5x120.65 (ie 5x4.75"), 73.9(?)mm bore, +33 offset. XJR is 18x8 on the non R1 wheels. R1 I believe had a slightly less offset to clear the Brembo's, and were slightly wider maybe.

I'm running aftermarket 18x8.5, 5x120, +20 offset and it's okay, I'd personally prefer them closer to OEM offset for appearance but I don't think it's caused any driving issues. Shimmed the bore with adhesive backed SS shim stock for a snug hub-centric fit.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nilanium
x308 wheels are 5x120.65 (ie 5x4.75"), 73.9(?)mm bore, +33 offset. XJR is 18x8 on the non R1 wheels. R1 I believe had a slightly less offset to clear the Brembo's, and were slightly wider maybe.

I'm running aftermarket 18x8.5, 5x120, +20 offset and it's okay, I'd personally prefer them closer to OEM offset for appearance but I don't think it's caused any driving issues. Shimmed the bore with adhesive backed SS shim stock for a snug hub-centric fit.
So I've found a nice set of winter wheels with tires, they're off a 2010 Acura TL. 18x8": 5x120 55mm offset according to the vehicle specs I can find. Assuming I don't have a hub size problem, these outhg to fit ok on my 01 XJR I think? The tires should be 245/45/18, whch is a litle taller and skinnier than the OEM size, but I've always considered taller and skinnier desirable traits in a winter tire. Any thoughts? What other manufaturer's wheels are easy or direct fit on the X308 XJR?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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x308 wheels are 5x120.65 bolt pattern, not 5x120. I think I've seen people squeeze the 120s on or have them drilled, but I wouldn't run them as is. If you do run them and the hubs are larger than the Jag, make sure to run hub rings. With such a heavy car I'd definitely want any wheels I run to be hub-centric.

Why not just run the Ateroids through the winter? Not like they're chrome or polished. They have a clear coat on them so should make it through weather just fine if you keep them clean.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
x308 wheels are 5x120.65 bolt pattern, not 5x120. I think I've seen people squeeze the 120s on or have them drilled, but I wouldn't run them as is. If you do run them and the hubs are larger than the Jag, make sure to run hub rings. With such a heavy car I'd definitely want any wheels I run to be hub-centric.

Why not just run the Ateroids through the winter? Not like they're chrome or polished. They have a clear coat on them so should make it through weather just fine if you keep them clean.
Might have to run them as is if I cna't find a decent set of second wheels. I generally prefer to have a second set of winter wheels and snow tires that I can put on when I'm ready for winter mode, rather than buy a set of snow tires and risk the tire guys scuffing up my wheels and invariably putting the wheel weights on the outside of the rim even when I specify to not do that. They're just in really good shape and I didn't want to risk them with the snow, salt and possible increased risk of breakage in colder temps. I won't be driving it in storms (other than surprise ones), but I do plan on driving it year round. Buying a set of wheels that fit and already have snows on them is also cheaper than just buying snow tires and having them mounted on my asteroids...yes the tires are partially worn but I'll get at least 1-2 winters out of them and if I can find something that fits I'll probbaly be in the 400-600 range, based on what I'm seeing...maybe that guy in CT still has those pentas...

I thought 5x120 and 5x120.65 were the same thing and people just dropped off the .65. Learn something new every day!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mayhem
Might have to run them as is if I cna't find a decent set of second wheels. I generally prefer to have a second set of winter wheels and snow tires that I can put on when I'm ready for winter mode, rather than buy a set of snow tires and risk the tire guys scuffing up my wheels and invariably putting the wheel weights on the outside of the rim even when I specify to not do that. They're just in really good shape and I didn't want to risk them with the snow, salt and possible increased risk of breakage in colder temps. I won't be driving it in storms (other than surprise ones), but I do plan on driving it year round. Buying a set of wheels that fit and already have snows on them is also cheaper than just buying snow tires and having them mounted on my asteroids...yes the tires are partially worn but I'll get at least 1-2 winters out of them and if I can find something that fits I'll probbaly be in the 400-600 range, based on what I'm seeing...maybe that guy in CT still has those pentas...

I thought 5x120 and 5x120.65 were the same thing and people just dropped off the .65. Learn something new every day!
Oh for snow tires, now that's a diffferent story and makes perfect sense Yea, the x308 has a weird bolt pattern. It's actually shared with older GMs believe it or not. My Grand National has 5x120.65 but don't think I can get 15-16" wheels on the Jag.

Do some searching, I believe people have succesfully used 5x120, either with modification or by just bolting them on but there is a difference. I was going to say, grab those Pentas from the guy in CT. If I was closer I would have already bought them.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
It's actually shared with older GMs believe it or not. My Grand National has 5x120.65 but don't think I can get 15-16" wheels on the Jag.
I didn’t know that our jags and the older GM’s were the same lug pattern. Now I’m going to have to see what the Montreal’s look like on my GN. You HAD to bring this up. 😂😂

For the record, 16” rims on the “small brake” X308’s are standard. Depending on style of GM wheel & wheel offset, it should fit fine. If you have the R1’s, forget it.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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I don't suppose the 16" wheels off a regulr X308 XJ8 would fit over the XJR brakes?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2boost
I didn’t know that our jags and the older GM’s were the same lug pattern. Now I’m going to have to see what the Montreal’s look like on my GN. You HAD to bring this up. 😂😂


We're all here to help each other make well informed, bad decisions.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mayhem


We're all here to help each other make well informed, bad decisions.
Yeah, I really like my stock wheels and they did not cost me anything.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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We're all here to help each other make well informed, bad decisions.
Hysterical! 😂😂

If you know what size front rotors you have, that would be of great help to you. If it’s the 305mm front rotors, a 16” Crown (VP) wheel definitely fits as my daughters 98’ XJR has a set on it right now. My 03’ SV8 Jag has 325mm front rotors and 17” wheels from the factory as I imagine 16” crown won’t clear the 325mm rotors but, I only have the 18” Pentas on it now because I just need to get an alignment done and then the R1 Brembo brakes with the 19” Montreal’s go on it.

Don't assume what size rotors you have on the front, take the wheel off and measure. I assumed after I got my 03’ SV8 that the factory 325’s were currently on it but, some idiot put 305mm rotors on a car that takes 325mm rotors and there was 10mm worth of unused brake pads which meant a decrease of braking performance. 🤦🤦 Must’ve been the: money and time > safety.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 10:16 AM
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I need to pull a front wheel off and get the serial number off the block anyway as well as rotate it to the rear to see if i can track down a vibration I've been getting, so I'll measure the rotor at the same time. I think since I have an 01 XJR without the brembo calipers, that I should have the 325mm rotors, but the tape measure will tell me the reality of it.

So if I have 325mm rotors, the 17's off an XK8 ought to fit I think? or maybe some C5 Vette wheels.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 10:20 AM
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So if I have 325mm rotors, the 17's off an XK8 ought to fit I think? or maybe some C5 Vette wheels.
Don’t see any reason why not.
 
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Originally Posted by Addicted2boost
I didn’t know that our jags and the older GM’s were the same lug pattern. Now I’m going to have to see what the Montreal’s look like on my GN. You HAD to bring this up. 😂😂

For the record, 16” rims on the “small brake” X308’s are standard. Depending on style of GM wheel & wheel offset, it should fit fine. If you have the R1’s, forget it.
Please post pictures of that if you try it. Hadn't even crossed my mind to try Jag wheels on the GN but Montreals would look killer on there! Would need a pretty big spacer as GN's usually run negative offset wheels, but it could definitely work

@mayhem - You probably have 325mm rotors as others have said, but always best to measure. if so you should be able to run an XK 17" without issue, 16" Jag wheels won't work with the 325's.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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Cool, thanks guys!
 
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