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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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What is the metal called under the Rocker Panel or the Part #. Or is it connected to. I am talking about the thing above the jacking square points.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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That's part of the body. Is it damaged?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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I'm confused...the metal above my jack points IS the rocker panel. Gotta pic to clarify?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 04:50 AM
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outer and inner sills.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 07:44 AM
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I think you speak of the lower pinch weld -- Jaguar painted the area black. By now most cars are flaking to show the body color.

The pinch weld is part of the main structure of the car and incorporates the jack points.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 08:18 PM
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It is damaged by the idiots who changed my tyres and did not tell me. I don't wanna go after them. Any repairs? Its bent by a jack.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 12:22 AM
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What you do is get a big lump hammer, at least 3lb and preferably bigger, and knock it back into shape.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by omgimali
It is damaged by the idiots who changed my tyres and did not tell me. I don't wanna go after them. Any repairs? Its bent by a jack.
Funny you brought this up. I have exactly the same damage (from a jack) on my VDP behind the LF wheel. Was there before I bought it and always wanted to get it fixed. I don't know if a 3lb. hammer swing is going to fix it though. It's pretty crunched...
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Might be a dumb question. But can a body shop fix this?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by omgimali
Might be a dumb question. But can a body shop fix this?
That's the expensive route, I've a feeling you'll be advised of cutting and welding....the other option is a BFH and a couple of accurate taps, as previously advised - having the car on a ramp makes it a simple job if you swing along the chassis and not 90 degrees to it, a bit of touch up and done. Be brave
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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ah ****, I'll leave that.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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You'll want to make sure the paint and underseal hasn't chipped off either.
Last thing you want is rust down there!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 04:31 AM
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That's pretty bad of the tyre shop to cause that much damage, it's careless. It's not like the jacking points are well hidden, they're fairly obvious things. If the damage is that bad, an easy fix might be getting a set of side skirts like ericjansan has on his XJ which cover that whole area.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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I've had to stop tire shops starting to jack the XJR up on this seam and other misc places telling them to use the jacking points, and one actually pushed back saying it was up to me but they don't usually use the Jag "box" jacking points as they're often rusted and crush.

Mine aren't rusted so I advised them to please use the jack points.

I have a sill slightly bent on our Riviera from this too. But I have to be honest that it frustrates me that modern cars have so few solid flat places to jack that aren't also prone to damage. It leave few additional safety options for backup jack stands, etc.

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The " boxed " section there underneath the body IS the jacking point. ( Shakes head ) I don't know how many times I've ran into this problem. Tire shops seem to think they know everything. At least you know now where the jack points are, next time if you need a tire shop, tell them that's where you want it jacked.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Here are picture. I tried hammering but cannot find the right spot. is this connected to the body? or can I take it off and put a new one on? confused.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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It is connected to the body, it is actually the seam where the body parts are 'fused' together (I am sure there is a correct English word for it).

I can see how you can hammer it back with a heavy steel block behind it, but you will need some decent height and some protection of the body.

Or maybe you can bend them back with a large clamp and some leverage, piece by piece, one step at a time?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 03:17 AM
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You'll have to heat them up a bit too, to make the metal move easier. If you've got a heat gun just tickle them until they're too hot to touch, but before the paint starts to bubble and it will make them move easier when hammering. Also paint over with satin black paint asap as there's bound to be damaged paint which will allow moisture through.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 08:44 PM
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I've never had to do this on a Jag, but I have other cars. I use C-clamps and 2 pieces 1 inch square steel tubing. But the sill in between the two pieces of tubing and tighten the clamps down, it will straighten out all of the "waves". You can use progressively longer sections of steel to true it all up. I never have used any heat on it, but that doesn't sound like a bad idea.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 09:21 PM
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You will have to use a drift and hammer. A hammer alone does not have the control to prevent denting the rocker. Once straight, the seam can be ground smooth, so the mars won't show.

The outer rocker sill panel can be replaced, but bonding aluminum is a specialty job, that only a handful of shops in the country can deal with it right now. Definitely not a do it yourself job! Now that the F150 is aluminum, there may be more shops soon that are prepared to mess with aluminum panels.
 
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