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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 06:51 AM
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Unhappy My 23 years old remote is as dead as a dodo. I

Jag dealers I called tell me they cannot do anything or replace it because car is too old, built in 2000 or 2001.

Any ideas anyone like buying some kind of "Universal" remote ?

Any idea on what frequencies these things work ?

Can the things actually be repaired ?

Thanks all !
 
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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 07:04 AM
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I’ve replaced remotes on several cars. There are numbers on the remote. Go to Amazon or eBay and find one with matching numbers.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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You will also find many auto locksmiths have them in inventory. Find an honest car dealer specializing in classic cars and ask them the name of the locksmiths they use in your area (France). You will also find the remotes on eBay (match the numbers and frequencies).

A dealer who I often see at my favorite bar buys old classics: many without keys, both of the guys he recommended came up with new keys and fobs and had the software to match it up .. . .
 
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Old Oct 28, 2023 | 04:00 AM
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Thanks guys !
 
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Old Oct 28, 2023 | 09:37 AM
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I think your X308 is build just a few month before the X308 had a security module, which can communicate with the Ford Flip-Key remotes, which are easy to get.
To confirm my suspicion, you you post a picture of your remote? If so...: I found a cunning solution for THAT problem...
 
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Old Nov 3, 2023 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_of_Australia
I think your X308 is build just a few month before the X308 had a security module, which can communicate with the Ford Flip-Key remotes, which are easy to get.
To confirm my suspicion, you you post a picture of your remote? If so...: I found a cunning solution for THAT problem...
Hi Peter - I'm intrigued by your suggestion. Here is a pic of the remotes from my 2000 XJR. They both currently work, but only for the lock button... Would be very interested in an alternative. The remote for my 2001 XJR looks the same but has different numbers on the back.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 02:05 AM
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I wanted to see a picture of your remote to confirm that you have the OLD remote of the older X308s. I have a 1998 X308 (and I had the same remote, which you have) and I wanted to have 4 keys and 4 remotes for all my cars, which was kind of impossible for the X308 from 1998, as it is not possible to get get new remotes, which work with that 1998 X308 and the second hand ones are accordingly extremely expensive and very rare.

But I had an idea of how to solve my problem, and it worked perfectly;

I can't remember the OE P/N of the security module of my 1998 X308 (anyway, that would be the module, which you have now), but I found out that the slightly newer version of the X308 has another security module, which can communicate with the widely available TIBBE flip keys on e.g. Ebay. Hence, I found a second hand security module from a newer X308 on ebay, Swapped the modules and got my self 4 flip-keys. However, note that the flip keys are made for Tibbe keys with 6 cuts (as used by S-Type and X-Type. So I had to buy also 4 normal tibbe keys for 8 cuts (without remote and with normal rubber-"handle"), I had those keys cut and removed the rubber handle, and luckily in there is exactly the same "receptor", which is required to screw it into the flip keys. Or you find somewhere, where you can buy blank 8-cut tibbe keys. But as the 8-cut Tibbe blades a are slightly longer, you have to file a little bit of plastic off the housing of the flip key.

I brought the newer module: LNG2600JB from a X308 2000-2002.

And here is a video where you see at time 4:27, where the security module is:


I did not really listen, what he was trying to tell in the video, but just maybe that what he tells at the end of the video could be of interest for you as well.

I just realized that those flip keys are getting scares and expensive now. But here is what I am taking about:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40224137...Bk9SR8Dv_vryYg

And there are LNG2600JB on ebay - the trick is to find one, which is not too expensive....

But another note: You can self-program those flip key remotes, BUT you can only self program the transponder-"pills" in the keys, if you have both OE keys. As you have only one OE transponder pill, you need a competent locksmith to make you a "clone" of that transponder pill for every additional key.

PS:

A Jag comes normally with 2 OE keys. These 2 can do everything.
And then maybe, you get also a valet key. A valet key is the key, which you hand over to the boy, which is going to park your car.
The idea of the valet key is, that at least the stuff in your boot is save (from the valet boy), because the valet key does not open the boot.
However, a little modification to the cut of the valet key will transform it into a full key.
But I think, you need both OE keys to create other keys, which can start the car - whoever, I might be wrong in my "special design" swap of security module - I just cannot remember, what the story was about the transponder - all I remember is that I did not need the help of a locksmith nor Jaguar dealer.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 06:00 AM
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Hello all !

I got MAD !

Bought a NEW one for 269.62 Euro from Schlusselshop.de (Germany)

Will see what happens.

Thanks to all who indulge with my &^%^%$@$#@% and me.

Takeo.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 07:14 AM
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a new WHAT did you buy?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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Hi Peter !

A new (!) fob with the transmitter is what I bought,

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Old Nov 4, 2023 | 06:39 PM
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You bought another remote of the type, which you have? I did not think that they are still being sold new.
I could not find Schlusselshop.de nor Schluesselshop.de on the internet... (Schluessel means key)
 
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Old Nov 5, 2023 | 01:07 AM
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Sorry, Peter, I had it wrong. It is called:

https://www.autoschlusselshop.de

Takeo.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2023 | 06:02 AM
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OK, Found it. So you bought a new remote of old design.
I guess, if I had seen that remote for that price before I changed my security module, I might have decided for myself, that one just cannot get hold of a new replacement remote anymore - due to the price, which is why I thought, they do not exist anymore...

Now you have to seriously hope for this new remote to work and solve your issue...
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 10:39 AM
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Hi Peter.

Thanks, I have high hopes for it to workl

Next will be a hunt for a new TCM Transmission Contro Module, box keeps jumping out of gear and i keep getting funny texts.
After 5-6 malfunctions after leaving home in about 25 KM, the problems disappear ...
Will see...

Have a nice day !

Takeo.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 05:56 PM
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Did you check that your ATF level is correct (with car elevated but straight and level) and engine running checking if ATF drops out of the filler plug?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2023 | 02:39 AM
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Yes, that has been checked several times since I had a NEW gearbox installed 3 years ago !

I get p706 on my obd (4th gear fault) but it gives error messages at randome like also Coolant Low after I just filled some by etc, jumps out of gear when shifting back to 3rd r refusing to shift up to 5th by itself, unles I let go of the gas pedal fore a second, I also took the existing TCM out, unplugged it and shuiretd a ton of contactcleaner on the contacts and then it all went a bit better. Crazy. I have already mentioned it here in the forums and i got 3-4 answers about a faulty TCM and that I had to read the numbers on my actual TCM, so I could get a similar (identical) unit.

I will keep you posted.

Thanks for your concern, Peter.

Takeo.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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Hi Peter, this is what I bought, NEW, OEM, EUR 300,-- Easy to program, works perfectly !




One CR 2032 3 V Battery.


Takeo.


 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 11:36 AM
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When a FOB starts malfunctioning, the battery is ok and the battery contacts clean try this:

open it up a spray contact cleaner liberally on the micro switches.

it is usually the microswitches that are the problem, not the electronics. You can replace the micro switches too. You won’t even have to reprogram the FOB..
Jeroen
 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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Hallo Jeroen,

Heb ik allemaal geprobeerd. Helemaal schoongemaakt, Noppes, nix, lol

I tried a total cleaning, Jeroen, but I have a new one now.

next is to sort out my TCM problem.

Jaguars are such fun.

Takeo.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeo
Yes, that has been checked several times since I had a NEW gearbox installed 3 years ago !

I get p706 on my obd (4th gear fault) but it gives error messages at randome like also Coolant Low after I just filled some by etc, jumps out of gear when shifting back to 3rd r refusing to shift up to 5th by itself, unles I let go of the gas pedal fore a second, I also took the existing TCM out, unplugged it and shuiretd a ton of contactcleaner on the contacts and then it all went a bit better. Crazy. I have already mentioned it here in the forums and i got 3-4 answers about a faulty TCM and that I had to read the numbers on my actual TCM, so I could get a similar (identical) unit.

I will keep you posted.

Thanks for your concern, Peter.

Takeo.
Not trying to hijack the thread, but when doing an interweb search, always search with the model and then code (Jaguar P0706), OBD II always uses a 4 digit code, so if its a 3 digit return the first # is 0.
What are the Possible Causes of the DTC P0706 Jaguar?NOTE: The causes shown may not be a complete list of all potential problems, and it is possible that there may be other causes.
  • Faulty Park/Neutral Position (PNP) Switch
  • Misadjusted Park/Neutral Position Switch
  • Park/Neutral Position Switch harness is open or shorted
  • Park/Neutral Position Switch circuit poor electrical connection
The switch could just be out of alignment?

The valve body is known to crack...this guy has some very good vids on the ZF...the vid alone may give you some direction, especially at 2:54 (he has many more)...
..for some reason when I clipped the link once before, it now won't release and it starts on the valve body explanation. Your option to restart it.
For the ZF trans you may want to review this upgrade he mentions... https://www.ebay.com/itm/22231126447...3260aa6c86fbd3
 
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