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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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The RH side of my sunroof panel is sagging when I open the tilt - It isn't just the fabric, it's the whole panel that sags. I've been advised that the part to repair this is $515. Is there a quick fix that anyone has found?

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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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my sunroof seal is getting really bad...the wood it is attached to must have gotten wet and now the fabric is falling off...what did you end up doing to solve your problem? i am thinking of using fabric glue to get it to stick to the wood again, but i don't know...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Can anyone describe what the inner panel is made of? On mine, the fabric is damp and stretched at the left and right edges of the panel.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Hi
Maybe a sunroof panel track is broken or the sunroof panel has come out of the track.
I do not know of a quick fix.

There are instruction in the JTIS about how to remove the sunroof frame. There a lot of steps that include removing part of the headliner to get access to the frame and other sunroof componets.

Also if the sunroof panels are getting wet you might want to read this posting on Sunroof Drains (go down to post# 2):

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...-number-28139/

This is the information I found about the Sunroof panels.

Gaudrin Jaguar Parts prices
Trimboard about $300 also has this notation: This item is discontinued – Contact us
Trim Panel about $360


Part numbers
Sunroof panel trimboard (TRIMBOARD-SUNROOF ) Front large Panel

Xj Series from Vin 812317 to F595525
Color Gray HNA1740ABLFJ
Color Oatmeal HNA1740ABAGD

Sunroof trim panel (PANEL-SUNROOF TRIM) Rear smaller Panel

Xj Series from Vin 812317 to F48715
Color Gray HNA1760AALFJ
Color Oatmeal HNA1760AAAGD

Xj Series from Vin F48716 to F595525
Color Gray HNA1760ABLFJ
Color Oatmeal HNA1760ABAGD


Here is a photo of the Sunroof panels (X300) from another forum thread:


https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/attachments/x300-26/6318d1289771726-changing-headliner-sagging-headliner-jaguar_0010-jpg

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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Hi Fairlane500
forum member motorcarman posted has TSBs on the sunroof (sliding roof) with repair instructions and illustrations on a previous forum thread:

XJR sunroof

TSB 13-39-sliding-roof & TSB 501-26-sliding-roof have repair info that can be done without PDU (Jaguar Scan Tool)

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/at...81-xjr-sunroof-

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/at...16-xjr-sunroof-

Hope this helps

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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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The front portion of the sunroof panel is metal, the small piece at the back is plastic. You have to tilt the sunroof up to remove the large panel out through the outside. I just took my headliner down and the sunroof panels out so I can replace the entire headliner. I can take some pictures if you would like to see the panel out.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Jeff, pictures would be a big help to those of us trying to understand this contraption. Especially whatever clips or fasteners need to be undone to get the large panel out. Does the smaller plastic piece connect to the front one? Thx.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Sorry for the delay, has been busy for me lately. Got some pictures of the roof panel and the track inside the car with the panel out. Hope these help you out. To remove the large panel you have to tilt the sunroof up and pull the large panel out from the outside of the car. It should just slide out, you have to kinda compress the springs on it a little to get it out but it will come. The smaller panel has to be pulled out from the inside of the car. You will have to drop the headliner to get to it. You have to leave the sunroof tilted up to slide the small panel toward the back of the car. There are a couple of rubber plugs in the end of the track you have to remove and then the panel will slide out the back. The sunroof mechanism releases this small portion when it is tilted up and then engages it to push it forward and back as the sunroof travels to fully open.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Thank you very much for this post.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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Thanks to everyone - I have just about figured out how to repair my sunroof.
I forgot to mention - I love my XJ8, but I also drive an 06 BMW Z4 convertible with
4K (four) miles on it.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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any idea how this goes in, what it hooks into mine was wrapped in the trunk when i bought it

any help would be great
 
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Look at my new Sliding Roof thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...alling-102861/

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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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If you still have questions I have had to remove my sunroof panel again. To insert the large padded panel you insert it while the sunroof is tilted up. Slide it in the opening once the sunroof is tilted up and it locks in the front on two pins. The rear is held down by the two metal springs. it should snap in at the front. The small rear peice has to be put in from inside the car. There are two small runners that hold the small trim peice in. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 05:49 AM
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got the big piece in just relized this morning didnt put the small piece in, i was too excited..lol
what runners?
is the weight of the lrger piece pushing and pulling it or does it clip in ?

Thanks Yet Again!!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Glad you got the big one in. There are two small runners that are in the sunroof track. Run your hand along the sunroof track and you should find them. They should be in the track that the sunroof rides in, and you should be able to just push them forward and back fairly easily. The smaller piece clips on the top of those runners. Those runners have a piece that the front part grabs to push and pull it with the larger piece. I believe from the last time I worked on mine that the small piece needs to go from inside the car. If you have the headliner down you should be able to find those little runners and clip the small peice on to them. You then need to just slide it up just behind the large piece until it overlaps the larger piece and will not go any further forward. From there, the sunroof should do what it needs to by pushing that piece back when it opens and then pulling it back forward when you close the sunroof. I would try it several times before you put the headliner back in. By the way the clips on my small piece broke and it will no longer clip in correctly, there could be a chance yours is broken as well if you have trouble clipping it to those runners. I will try to get out and take some more photos of it for you. Unfortunately I do not have my headliner down though.
 

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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 05:33 AM
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Hey Jeff thanks for the nicely detailed explanation.
I haven't had time , and the headliner material match was a job in itself...lol

I'm going to try to post a pic of a piece of black plastic that fell out when I took out the headliner, but I think its a piece fron the large cover that was removed before I bought the car not not the piece it rides on
 
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XJRJeff
Sorry for the delay, has been busy for me lately. Got some pictures of the roof panel and the track inside the car with the panel out. Hope these help you out. To remove the large panel you have to tilt the sunroof up and pull the large panel out from the outside of the car. It should just slide out, you have to kinda compress the springs on it a little to get it out but it will come. The smaller panel has to be pulled out from the inside of the car. You will have to drop the headliner to get to it. You have to leave the sunroof tilted up to slide the small panel toward the back of the car. There are a couple of rubber plugs in the end of the track you have to remove and then the panel will slide out the back. The sunroof mechanism releases this small portion when it is tilted up and then engages it to push it forward and back as the sunroof travels to fully open.
My "large" panel (front panel) seems to have become disengaged. If I tilt the roof up, I can look down into out from the outside, and I see the two "paperclip- looking" springs sticking up. So if I read your post correctly, all I should have to do is give the panel a good push forward and it should re-engage and sit?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 01:57 PM
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Ok, I "think" I have part of my problem fixed. Once I got the panel over the central guide lugs (terminology according to jimlombardi's excellent pdf) it functions better. But still not perfect. I don't think I have the most forward part of the panel engaged with the slider pegs. The pegs are resting under the front part of the panel, though, in some divot area. Are the pegs supposed to go directly into those holes I saw on the rail? Seems like a special tool would be needed to spring the pegs in?
 
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Old May 3, 2016 | 04:36 PM
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I still have not figured out how to get the front of the big panel to connect with the pegs, or whatever I need it to do.

I downloaded and tried to reference jimlombardi's pdf. It says, in step 2 of installation, to PULL the panel over the pegs. Say what - how am I supposed to pull?
 

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