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What are the differences between the XJ8 & the XJ8 VDP ? (besides the picnic tables in the rear of the seats)

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The Vanden Plas is basically the long wheelbase, luxury version of a standard XJ8

It has the fluted "Daimler" radiator grill and trunk bar.
It is 5" longer than the standard XJ8, giving much better interior rear leg room for rear passengers and longer rear doors for ease of passenger access.
It has a slightly higher roof line giving rear passengers more headroom.
It has more chrome around the doors/windows etc, and door mirrors.
It has premium leather seats with contrast piping.
It has the premium wood and leather steering wheel.
It has heated rear seats.
It has a 320watt Alpine premium stereo (the standard XJ8 is 140watt)
It has "Vanden Plas" in gold lettering on the front dash.
It has proprietary alloy wheels.

There may be more, but these are the main features I can think of.


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For what it's worth, may be differences in years, but I have a VDP and it does not have heated seats (rear or front), and it has a Harmen Karden stereo system (not sure of the wattage, but it's nice)
 
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Bill is correct, the heated front and rear seats were not standard on the VDP until 2001.

Here is an excellent year-by-year breakdown of the progression of the X308 and the specifications for the various models by year.

If you scroll down to the bottom you can click on any particular year and see the relevant specs that apply.

1995-03 Jaguar XJ-Sedan/XJ Series | Consumer Guide Auto


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The rear anti-roll bar is deleted on VDPs, for improved ride comfort.
 
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Were any short wheelbase XK8 308 series actually sold in the USA?
 
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Assuming you meant short wheelbase XJ8 (not XK8) 308, the answer is yes. Most 308's sold in US were short wheelbase units. My first was (actually a Canadian market model). Last was an XJ8L (much better rear legroom and ride).
 
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I have a XJ8-L and thought that most of those sold in the U.S. were XJ8-Ls. Interesting.
 
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Here's a Ford Motor Co sales sheet with US XJ8 sales figures for 1999 and 2000, pretty sure the ratios would remain similar through 2002/3.

SWB XJ8 sales outnumber LWB XJ8 sales nearly 5-to-1, and VDP LWB sales outnumber "standard" LWB sales 3-to-1. So the XJ8-L is actually the "rarer" of the three.

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Originally Posted by Carnival Kid



Here's a Ford Motor Co sales sheet with US XJ8 sales figures for 1999 and 2000, pretty sure the ratios would remain similar through 2002/3.

SWB XJ8 sales outnumber LWB XJ8 sales nearly 5-to-1, and VDP LWB sales outnumber "standard" LWB sales 3-to-1. So the XJ8-L is actually the "rarer" of the three.

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Alfred, here's a list of period US pricing to compare the difference in model costs.


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Alfred, here's a list of period US pricing to compare the difference in model costs.


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Thanks bud. Big difference between the swb and lwb. 6 grand. I was perplexed when I read reviews that said that there was limited rear passenger space. I guess the reviews were for the base SWB model. My XJ8-L has a lot of rear passenger room.
 
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Originally Posted by Alfred Firmani
I was perplexed when I read reviews that said that there was limited rear passenger space. I guess the reviews were for the base SWB model. My XJ8-L has a lot of rear passenger room.
Yes, many reviewers complained about the lack of rear legroom in the "regular" XJ8 for it being such a luxury sedan, especially if a tall driver has the seat all the way back. The LWB versions have plenty of room in the back, giving an almost limousine feel and appearance, additionally accentuated by the longer rear doors which add a sleek look as well as easier entry and egress for rear passengers.


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Not at all. The X-308 was criticized by many for being so large on the outside and so small on the inside. Even to the point that USA regulators classified the XJ, based on its interior space in cubic feet, as a “compact” car, in the same league as a Dodge Dart!

The rear seats in my 2001 XJR are too cramped for today's adults. But people forget that when the XJ was introduced in 1968, the average Englishman weighed 167 pounds — which is the weight of the average American woman today.

It gets worse. Sir William Lyons, himself a tall man, nevertheless was relentless in keeping his car’s low-slung with rounded off rocker panels, similar to an airplane's fuselage. Even Tesla's sleek big sedan towers over an X-308 XJ8, which is only 53” high. Inside, the driving experience is as if in a cocoon, also in the aircraft tradition. For me, at 5’10” and 170 lb., it is a perfect fit. In contrast, in my 1998 BMW 740i, I felt as if I was sitting in a barn.

That sleek roofline created problems for the VDP. Yes, it had the legroom is so badly needed. But the roofline was so low, the only way the designers could compensate was by using “shorty” rear seats whose bottoms were sharply angled upward, placing the passenger's butt at the crux of the steep vee where the seat and seat back meet. The result was that taller men's knees were nearly parallel with their chins. Thigh support was non-existent, and to top it all off, men 6’ and taller would still feel their scalp against the headliner.

But still, of the three X-308s I’ve owned, the one I’ve never forgiven myself for letting go was a rare-as-hen's teeth 2001 Vanden Plas Supercharged. The factory built just 250 of these per year for the world market. My 2001 platinum VDP SC was, I think, the high water mark for the XJ, being far more powerful and efficient than earlier 12-cylinder versions. Foolishly I sold it and now must struggle along with an ‘01 XJR. (Which I also love, but still . . .)
 
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