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Can I use either switch DAC1422 DAC2852 for an xj6?
As the title state Can I use either switch DAC1422 DAC2852 for an 1980 xj6?
Mine went bad and was previously repaired. Sadly two of the clips holding it together broke.
As far as I can tell from pictures the wiring is the exact same as is the plug. The old version looks as though I has an additional plug. That is easily removed.
Thanks DD. DAC2852 was installed in my car so I assume there must be some interchangeability.
they must be interchangeable, Jaguar wasn't making a different ignition switch for every model they made every year; parts used in Series 1, 2, and 3 XJ were first used in the S type, 420, 420-G, and MK-10 models. One good example is the headlights switch used since around 1961 until 1992. Different part numbers, same part.
As far as I can tell... Having both Series 2, Series 3 and XJS in the shop...
The Series 3 and mid 80s XJS are interchangeable...
The Series 2 probably won't be a direct switch for either Series 3 or mid 80s XJS...
I can look into it a bit further and give more specific details if needed...
they must be interchangeable, Jaguar wasn't making a different ignition switch for every model they made every year; parts used in Series 1, 2, and 3 XJ were first used in the S type, 420, 420-G, and MK-10 models. One good example is the headlights switch used since around 1961 until 1992. Different part numbers, same part.
'"Must be" interchangeable?
That's a bit bold
And are you saying that the headlight switch from a 1961 Jag will work in my Series III? I really don't think so!
yes Doug, you actually could. not that you would want to, but you could. Try getting an old headlights switch from a S type or 420 and a new one from a Series 3, they are the same 4-position switch.
yes Doug, you actually could. not that you would want to, but you could. Try getting an old headlights switch from a S type or 420 and a new one from a Series 3, they are the same 4-position switch.
I'll defer to your greater experience with the older models and stand corrected .
My only experience (from some time ago) was that the 60s models had a bracket actually riveted to the switch and didn't have the 'push in for fog lamp' feature. But, my memory is foggy. I certainly agree that the design of the actual switch portion is fundamentally the same design though.
We might be getting tripped up in in the semantics of it all. I'm sure many parts can be used on several models because they are close enough to work....sometimes with some modifications, sometimes not. But they are not actually the same. I'm pretty sure that's the case with the ignition switches. They're all essentially the same but there well be some differences the prevent unhindered interchangeabiilty in all directions. For example, it might be possible to use the XJS switch in an XJ6 but not the other way around.
As a rule if the part number is different, the part is different...even if only in a subtle way.
correct, no pull-push function in the earlier headlight switches, that came later...
but as you say, I have noticed parts in my 1965 S type (1964 build), that I see repeated in my 1984 XJ-6 (1983 build), and I am talking about identical bits of hardware as well as electronic parts. My "theory" is that Jaguar and Lucas designed parts that were used consistently in all their models, and were produced for 15 or 20 years.
(when the XJ-40 came out, all that changed, a new digital era began).
correct, no pull-push function in the earlier headlight switches, that came later...
Ok....then the 60s vintage switch is NOT 'the same four position switch' as the Ser III switch, as you asserted earlier!
but as you say, I have noticed parts in my 1965 S type (1964 build), that I see repeated in my 1984 XJ-6 (1983 build), and I am talking about identical bits of hardware as well as electronic parts. My "theory" is that Jaguar and Lucas designed parts that were used consistently in all their models, and were produced for 15 or 20 years.
I understand and, essentially, I agree.
But.....
I hate to beat this into the ground but my only concern is accurate information, Jose. Describing something as "the same" when it is NOT the same serves no good purpose. We should be careful in what we say as the entire point of these forums is to share information
If something IS the same, use the word "same". If something is similar, use the word 'similar'.
Look at the two ignition switches in the very first post. One has extra wires. Some degree of interchangeability seems obvious full compatibility in all directions can't be assured because the switches are similar, not the same. Saying the "must" be interchangeable, as you did, is almost certainly not accurate.
Doug, same switch, no pull-push, talking about the Headlights switch, not the Ignition Switch, David already cleared that one.
first picture is a nos headlight switch for a Saloon and XK-E
second and first pics are a Series 3 XJ headlights switch.
the only difference is that the Saloon/XKE switch has no pull-push, but otherwise it performs the same way and mounts the same way as the older switch. OFF-PARKING-HEADLIGHTS-FOG
I understand the difference between the headlight switch discussion and the ignition switch discussion. I was using the ignition switch as another example to illustrate the difference in the words 'same' and 'similar' because I'm under the impression you are using them interchangeably (ha! ...there's a pun considering the topic!)
Back to headlight switches.....
If (as per your own words) the 60s vintage headlight switch does NOT have the push-pull capability that the Ser III switch has, why do you insist on saying it is the 'same' switch? What am I missing? Please enlighten me.!
Or....on second thought...don't bother. If you wanna say something is the 'same' when it is only 'similar', who am I to mention anything? Go right ahead. I'll let the matter drop with my apologies to all.
the only difference is that the Saloon/XKE switch has no pull-push, but otherwise it performs the same way and mounts the same way as the older switch. OFF-PARKING-HEADLIGHTS-FOG
The minute you say ......'the only difference' ..... you are saying that the two switches are different, NOT the same.
Doug, they are the same switch in that you could install either switch in either Jaguar in the same manner as the "original" switch, AND obtain similar results, i.e., turn the parking, headlights, or fogs On and Off.
in fact, I already DID, I replaced a friend's headlight switch in his 1966 S type with a Series 3 XJ headlights switch, all I had to do was remove the switch from the XJ's bezel plastic and metal mountings, mount it to the S type, and connect the wires. Similar results.
01-04-2015, 04:23 PM
Can I use either switch DAC1422 DAC2852 for an xj6?
