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Default Firewall battery terminals

As the cars came out of the factory , were there any protective boots over these posts?

I really dont like those things exposed and will be protecting mine, but I am interested if bare = normal. I have checked one other car and found them bare, but dont know if that means the covers rot away or they are never there.
 
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Old 11-26-2015, 03:06 AM
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Hi Steve,

All Series 3's had push on type terminals with braided leads and rubberised covers for each terminal.

These were colour specific to signify polarity. Red - Pos, Black - Neg

Most have perished and weren't replaced, so aren't there today.

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Yep.

They had a rubber cover on each side.

The fact they were British Non-metallic components, rotted within about 5 years. They sort of "hung on" for another 5, if left undisturbed, but after that, gone.

I tried to buy some when I had the Series cars, but got too hard. I knew they were "bare" and never got caught out.
 
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Hi Grant,

As a follow up.

Depending on what battery you fit, clearance with the bonnet is / should not be an issue.

I always liberally smear high temp bearing grease on my terminals, primarily to ward off oxidation and resultant terminal fluff.

Never had an issue.

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Agreed, many a scorched S2 bonnet from that little blunder.

My understanding was thread was in regard to the battery cable +ve threaded posts on the firewall, one each side, that came with rubber 90deg elbows as a covering???
 
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I think yarpos is referring to the threaded fine 3/8 posts that penetrate the firewall. The inside or interior has a rubber boot. I have never seen a cover on the engine compartment side.

As for the aformentioned top battery terminal issue...new leads and a side terminal battery is a practical retrofit.
 
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:46 AM
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Found it. I knew that I had seen it some place :-)
 
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An all of the above answer???


My 83 has a side post battery. good, but with reservations. when, I was having starter travails, the negative connection in the battery case just melted!!! High draw of done for starter??? A little tin cup with formed threads was imbedded in the lead.Lead melted. No connection anymore. Battery replaced with a spare. All is well now. That would never happen with the husky lead posts found on top post batteries.


Yes, there was a remnant of a rubber like cap on the fire wall post. Lost in the lumping shuffle. I don't recall a similar thing on the starter solenoid.


Sans covers seems to function just fine.


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Originally Posted by icsamerica
I think yarpos is referring to the threaded fine 3/8 posts that penetrate the firewall.
Yes he is. We had a conversation about it and I expressed similar concern since discovering mine are the same. I'm going to find some kind of cover, don't like them exposed.
 

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Thanks all for the responses. I think I will just buy a variety of protective boots from Ebay and see what fits the best. I went through the same process with the little Morris I am slowly resuscitating.
 
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Hi Steve,

Sorry to go off at a tangent.

I'll read the question a second time before answering next time.

I just remembered that my English teacher used to regularly repeat that to me 30 years ago at school.

My spots must be a bit rusted on!

In regards to the boots that you were enquiring about, a couple of the well known jag specialists seem to stock them when I just checked on them.

Item C30693

A couple of pounds each plus postage.

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Thanks all for the responses. I think I will just buy a variety of protective boots from Ebay and see what fits the best. I went through the same process with the little Morris I am slowly resuscitating.
Steve, I've been wondering if those small rubber chair leg cups could be tweaked to fit. Bunnings have them in different sizes from tiny to quite large - it's a long shot, but a cheap fix if it works. I'll investigate.
 
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Before heading off to Bunnings I decided to delve into the black hole (aka bits box) and voila! found 2 rubber cups. No idea where they came from, no doubt of some ancient origin. Probably used for a similar electrical purpose I'm guessing...Anyhow, they're a perfect snug fit over the expose nuts. I might pull them off again and add a bit of silicone for a little extra seal.

Not a perfect solution as the back end of each terminal is still exposed, but it's a start.
 
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Certainly stop an inadvertent slip of the spanner hitting one. I have some covers coming from Ebay that fit over the cable , then the terminal (if I got the sizing near the mark). Will post if they are any good, and will have some to share as minimum order = 10.
 
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No worries Steve, happy to buy some from you if good. I was thinking a bigger cup would be better - maybe cut a slot to slip over the cables.
 
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the 1982 thru 1984 batteries were side mounts, and they had plastic or "nylon" snap covers over each terminal. The nylon covers were part of each cable; my 1984 still has them, I will take a picture and post it later.
 
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Jose:


My 83 as well. But, on the cable end that goes on to the battery. Other ends
now bare....


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Carl, here's the cables and caps in my 1984:
 
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Me Ebay envelope arrived so I thought I would see if my guesstimate sizing worked and I could add some protection to these terminals.

Passenger side near battery before:
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After (couldnt quite get that wire in with the battery cable, but still its a ot more protected.
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Drivers side before:
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Drivers side after (more complete cover on this one and also gave me the opportunity to tidy up a spaghetti junction)

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Bit more protected from an inadvertent strike and the red is a bit of a flag about whats lurking there.
 

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Nice one Steve, glad it worked. I like that they're red.
 


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