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Need help, 1989 V12 running issues

 
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:48 PM
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I don't see where their attitude comes in.
He makes his living fixing cars, and you are asking for him to tell you how for free. If he did that for everyone, how could he survive?
If is easy fix, will be cheap. Take it there and see.
 
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Old 06-20-2008, 12:51 AM
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You should go to Jag-Lovers.org.

Firstly,yours is one of a common series of problems that the ignition system on yourmodel suffers from. You will get deluged with advice from "experts". Alot of it will be recycled details that I gave them years ago, but don't expect to see me accreditedanywhere.

Secondly, that august body consists mainly of home mechanics who want (or need) to fix their cars for nothing, and share your disdain for the value of professional ethics. You'll be a kindred spirit.

Thirdly, do not run your engine beyond the amount necessary to diagnose the fault.Yours is the second leading cause of XJS engine bay fires. Toasted XJS are scattered around the countryside like burnt popcorn.

Lastly, and speaking only for myself, people who use these forums and receive free professional advice have no idea how lucky they are. They also show no appreciation for it, and often expect answers as if it were an entitlement. No doctor, lawyer, real estate agent, mortgage broker or accountant who I have helped has ever offered me free professional advice in return. Come to think of it, no free pizza either.

FactoryJagTech is the most selfless individual I have ever seen in the manner with whichhe conducts himself onany forum. I don't think he is making money in any way from these efforts. IF his recent lack of participation has anything to do with the lack of return from it, I don't blame him for a second. That's why I'm out.

My motives are a little more selfish, just like the guy who answered your phone call. To customers, I comp extra service and parts everyday. On forums, I give free advice in hopes of generating some parts sales and attracting a local owner or two to patronize myspecialized business.That gets me very little in return for the effort. More often I suspect thatthe detailed information I provide is helping to educatesome competitor across town who fancies fixing Jaguars.That is the only way I put food on my table...and the pizza ain't free.

The guy who answered your call wasn't talking to a customer. Had he answered your questions, you wouldn't have brought your car to his facility: you would have fixed it yourself anyway. He knows that, and so do I. He's just betterat focusing his time on helping the owners with cars already in his shop.

I don't know if you learned anything from that, but it reinforced a lesson for me. Thanks for your call.

Andrew Bernstein
British Auto Care

 
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i agree. "just bring it here and I'll fix it" not sure what you wanted him to say, but bring the car to him and he'll fix it. sounds pretty reasonable to me.

JTO, wish you were closer to NC man!
 
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Well written Andrew. See a lot of posts on other forums looking for the cheap, I can understand it to a point. I purchased my first luxo car in 89 it was an 85 380sl
but, I knew going in if something broke it was going to cost $$$$. So why are some owners amazed and shocked at the prices for Jag repairs or parts? Buy a Porsche and go get a simple tuneup and see what it costs (its a wake up call).
 
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ORIGINAL: Rat 427
....And I haven;t found anyone freindly in the jaguar world yet. Everyone seems to have an attitude. ....
Then sell the Jag and drive your Chevy where everyone will be friendly (you asked for that one).
 
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Old 06-20-2008, 03:40 PM
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Hi Rat

I'm sorry you feel that way about this forum, I am a member of several forums including Dodge and BMW forums, I think this is the best of them all.
The layout of the site the sections and above all the quality and the quantity of information available, I'm sure if you read through some previous threads you would find the info you need.
At the end of the day you have to respect the fact that these garage owners are in the business to make a living as quoted on previous posts and you can't get too upset if the info is not volunteered straight up foc after your first post!

I had a problem with my S-type, I had a couple of suggestions but did not resolve the problem but I didn't get upset with the forum because my problem didn't get resolved.

Montru
 
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thats what i usually say to v12 customers.. cant fix anything over the phone. but i love working on those V12's. Just handed a bill to my cutomer XJS v12 '78 $4200 definitley not a cheap car to drive everyday.. or even on a sunday ..
 
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Just did a coolant leak on a '94 6.0 litre: RH timing cover gasket was squeezed out at water pump port behind cover. Nice squirt.Reassembled with new pump, hoses, belts, $1500 for a $1.00 gasket.
I think that was way cheap, but he also bought one of my XJ8's a year and a half ago and has been a 15 year customer.

If the gasket leaked the other way, his pan would have filled with coolant and toasted the motor. First time in 25 years I saw that one.
 
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:11 PM
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LOL...

My lack of being around lately is more to do with being ill. Not lack of thanks here.......

 
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Thank you and don't get Ill anymore
 
 
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