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this guy has this army truck thing, its diesel runs bad, he bought it at military auction.

he found a good running Jagur V12, wants someone to put it in?

needs a rough cost price?
 
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Ron - you're kidding, right?
 
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Sumpin's a foot. Complete with ring mount 50 cal. Yeah sure.


Oh, in about 53, I taught young soldiers how to shoot at airplanes with those.


Open the picture ands see the poster on the door.


I suspect that is a National guard Humvee. Very run of the mill GM diesel. Quite fixable.


!!!!


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One should expect to pay 4 to 6 thousand dollars plus parts and machine costs.

Jag v12 is all wrong for this project. To move that thing around you need Cummings Turbo diesel, Big Block Chevy torque.

Perhaps a power train package from a donor Surburban 6.2L Diesel would be the expedient choice. Rusted out 2WD Surburbans can be found for a nice price.
 
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Wowee, I thought that 2wd burbs were rare.


In Desert Storm, CNN provided two civilian versions of the Humvee imbedded reporters to ride in. The real ones, not the Fancy bodies on pickup chassis, ala Arnie Schwarznegger.


They took a beating, but came home. TV showman and customizer
got his hands on one and restored it. The reporters were amazed and
it recalled memories of true high adventure....


I could live with one in my drive. A tank of fuel would have to last a year!!!


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Most all 4wd, and never engaged or off road. a few to the snow mebbe.


One of my son's past gal friends had a 4wd, why, who knows. Hauling kids and groceries and go to work???


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Oh, and the guy up the road gathers them. three in his drive. Two drive, one done for...


Tough l;ife visible.


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[QUOTE=JagCad;1532652]Sumpin's a foot. Complete with ring mount 50 cal. Yeah sure.


Oh, in about 53, I taught young soldiers how to shoot at airplanes with those.


Open the picture ands see the poster on the door.


I suspect that is a National guard Humvee. Very run of the mill GM diesel. Quite fixable.

carl NO its not N/G it is privatly owned(talked with the owner yesteday), the gun has no firing pin,(against the laws).

GM 6.5L turbo is probably the worst engine ever made in past 50YRs, my Diesel shop(PERFORMANCE DIESELS Daytona FL) worked on dozens of those engines 4.3L/5.7L/6.5L GM diesel engines , and never was satisfied with results!

without going into details, it simply was very poor engineering, and i tried many types of mods tryng to correct things, OK basicly ,any good diesel does not have the bore larger than the stroke! give it some thought??

that , plus many small deffiencies!

Ron !!!
 
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Originally Posted by icsamerica View Post
One should expect to pay 4 to 6 thousand dollars plus parts and machine costs.

Jag v12 is all wrong for this project. To move that thing around you need Cummings Turbo diesel, Big Block Chevy torque.

Perhaps a power train package from a donor Surburban 6.2L Diesel would be the expedient choice. Rusted out 2WD Surburbans can be found for a nice price.
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that 6.2 GM diesel was junk also sold,i sold them by the dozen, to a guy from UK, he flew over siad he could make them strong, i said have at it, took the money, 12 engines $50. apiece, good riddence to bad rubbish!

anyway the guy with the Humvee brought this home today! Dura Max 6.6L turbo, best diesel ever by GM for medium duty!
 
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Ronbros:


I defer to your clearly better knowledge of Herr Diesel's invention.


They have always interested me. Past and near present.


1. In the mid forties, an uncle and aunt owned a small dairy farm. He had a side line of hauling hay and stuff to include farm equipment.
first a circa 41 Chevrolet tractor. The Babbitt bearing sixes were rather short lived pulling a heavily loaded trailer. It included a winch ad gin poles for loading in the field. The rear edge of the trailer got a roller across it. Uncle's ingenuity and talent with a torch and arc welder. Then the venerable tractor got an engine transplant. A World
war II surplus new GMC 270 gas six. Far more powerful and tougher.


Business was good. Went shopping. Brand spanking new GMC diesel tractor. Six wheels only. Unc admitted that was mistake. But, it got a winch and poles and did a lot of hauling. At times, with a tag axle for more load capacity.


After earning it's keep and more, it got traded in. A brand new 54 GMC tractor. Tandem axle this time. Same tough GM diesel 6.
I got to drive it, sans trailer a couple of times. King of the road, oh yeah....


Decades later, my barber moaned. His beautiful diesel powered Cad
busted another crankshaft. Parked it and got an Escalante!!! Tried to sell or even give it to me. Just to get it away from the side of the house. That SWMBO thing. Nice lady, but a tough ER nurse....


Very tempted. Swap in a LT1. No SMOG inspects for diesels, Yahoo!!
But, no, I had finaly gotten my SMOG OK for my swap. Not ready for another. And, I had an SWMBO as well!!


Much later, actualy this year. A little diesel engine on Craigs list. Fellow's project dropped. Hmm, I have an EMPI style VW Dune Buggy derelict in my driveway. Engine partly seized, il, go around about 240 degrees. Then locks. Water got in!!! Fix, mebbe.


On topic. A real 50 cal. Minus only a firing pin. Not too hard to fix.
Then, tons of fun shooting that critter. Ammo supposedly available,
But tough on the pocket book!!!


Somewhere in my stuff is a picture of a shave tail in field U.S Army uniform. A belt of 50 cal ammo draped on my shoulders. Bandidos,
check this out..


Oh, Dad made a belt for 12 gauge shot gun shells. I have it. Around my waist, it looks menacing.


I like that black one even more.


I've not seen the reality show with the two guys and their diesel truck
manifestations.


Oh, IHC had a diesel option for It's Scout II and traveler trucks,
Nissan sourced and not a good rep.


My son latched on to a circa 94 Dodge 4x4. 3/4 ton + rated.
Famed Cummins turbo six powered. Over 300K miles and strong.
Mostly light duty, but has moved some heavy loads. The prime mover
in a couple of shop moves....


Carl.
 
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