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Jbell,
I spent half hour under the car looking and studying in freezing temperature with a lamp.
Conclusion is I can't do this alone.
Freezing? Florida? What 50 degrees F? (smiley face goes here)
It is a lot of work and doing it for the first time doesn't help. If you have someone help or have someone else do it completely you'll probably get it done before me and I've already started.
54F is 12°C. Hardly freezing! I only heat my garage to 15°C and I find that's a pleasant working temperature. I actually overheat if I'm wearing coveralls and doing hard work.
Outside is currently -19°C, so having the garage 34°C (61°F) warmer than outside makes it feel positively tropical!
It's all relative, Fellas,
In Montana where I grew up, 54F was a balmy spring day and we were all out in our swimmies.
I move to California and they think 54F is the beginning of another Ice Age.
(';')
Jose
I managed to take out the IRS with a Motorcycle jack as many have mentioned, plenty of support, i think the reason for dropping it in the first place was a braking issue but managed to tick off a whole bunch of jobs "whilst i was in there".
Husband changed Nix's rear calipers w/o dropping the cage, but as I was writing it up, he said, "Be sure to say we're buying the chiropractor another annuity."
He gives Stubborn a whole new dimension!
(';')
Husband changed Nix's rear calipers w/o dropping the cage, but as I was writing it up, he said, "Be sure to say we're buying the chiropractor another annuity."
He gives Stubborn a whole new dimension! (';')
WAIT ELINOR !!! did he really ?
supposedly there is no room to remove the calipers with cage in place?
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Hi,
Back when I owned my first XJ6 in the late 90's I removed the calipers with the IRS installed so I could replace one of the diff axle seals. I luckily had a local independent jaguar shop that would let me come by and ask questions when the Haynes manual left me stumped ( I didn't even know the official Jag ROM were available ! No Google or forums back then ! ). Those guys gave me enough advice to get the job done, but it was a major PITA ! That's why I just pulled the whole thing off when fixing my current car. I'll also add the one of the parts cars I pulled the IRS off of had incorrectly installed handbrake calipers, one of the bolts had missed the hole allowing the small pad assembly to flip around backwards ! Pulling the whole thing allows much easier access & adjustment.
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That's where we got mine.
In fact, I was quite astonished how many parts for a 40 year old Jag they actually carried!
(';')
I'll volunteer to take one for the team if I've misunderstood, but I think Jose wants to work on the main foundation brake calipers, not the E-brake calipers. Elinor's link outlines removing the E-brake units which represents an entirely different animal. If I've misread this thread, send the face egg my way.
Jose, removing the rear cage is nothing more than removing nuts and bolts (12 I think someone said) and plugging the brake hard line after it's disconnected. The inconvenient part is supporting the cage and lowering it once the last bolt is removed-a transmission jack/motorcycle jack is the cats meow. Wouldn't you rather wrestle with calipers when they are waist-high on a work bench instead of flat on your back knocking crud into your eye's while not being able to access the 2/3rds of the cage that hides the calipers?
Good luck to you, either way you take.
Dave
P.S. I read much farther into Elinor's link as related by Husband. From my experience, he might have glossed over some of the related conditions and ease that might be encountered. In any case, it looks like the main calipers can be removed with the cage in place.
Last edited by LT1 jaguar; Jan 4, 2025 at 10:06 PM.
P.S. I read much farther into Elinor's link as related by Husband. From my experience, he might have glossed over some of the related conditions and ease that might be encountered. In any case, it looks like the main calipers can be removed with the cage in place.
Not at all easily! Far, far better and easier to drop the cage.
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As for removing the cage or not removing the cage, it is 100% possible to remove the calipers with the cage in place. I've done it.
If needed, it is 100% possible to remove only the parking brake calipers with the cage in place. I've done it.
If you have a hoist it isn't all that bad.
It's pretty darn miserable if you're working on your back, though. If you don't have a hoist it becomes a no-brainer, really. Just drop the cage and be done with.
If replacing the brakes discs at the same time (and who wouldn't?) then you'll need a hoist or you'll need to drop the cage. Working on your back isn't really an option, IMO. Why? Because to replace the discs the lower control arms must be allowed to swing wayyyyy down. The only way to allow for enough swing is to raise the car obnoxiously high on your jackstands....so high that A) nobody would feel safe under the car and B) your arms won't be long enough to do the work comfortably.
As for removing the cage, if the work area has room to slide the cage out from the side the car won't have to be elevated very high. If no room, and the cage must be removed from the rear, the car will have to be elevated much higher
Note the wheels under the car. This is a safety measure. If the jackstands should fail the wheels prevent the car from pancaking right onto the floor.....with the mechanic squished in between!
The emergency brake calipers are pretty simple - there are no hydraulics involved. In the picture below the emergency brake calipers are silver with the brass separating fork between them. The main brakes are your typical hydraulic units and are red. The main brakes have an external cross-over pipe delivering brake fluid to the other side.
