XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III 1968-1992

XJ12 S3 6.0 engine management upgrade project

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 22, 2016 | 03:52 AM
  #1  
Wiima63's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
Default XJ12 S3 6.0 engine management upgrade project

Here it goes my friend car engine management system and ignition upgrade.
Car is Sovereign '86, but VIN plate tells '82. Engine has changed to 6.0l.


Thing is change ems and ignition.
Specs:
* ecu FreeDrive with custom loom
* VR6 (VW) waste spark coils with amplifiers 2 pcs
* Trigger: 60-2 to pulley with hall sensor
* injectors and rails would be change
* distributor took off and hole blocked


I'll attach pics when get some ready.
 
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2016 | 09:04 AM
  #2  
icsamerica's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,291
Likes: 1,466
From: New York City
Default

Why? Long way to go for performance offered. You will need two sets of coil packs and probably 2 EMS becasue few Engine Management systems can reliably run 12 injectors. To be successful this will require a high level of skill and knowledge and a person with that level and skill knowledge probably wouldnt bother with a project like this. 6.0 engine has different bolt pattern than 5.3 so trans wont bolt up. Will have to use the jag 4l80e with stand alone controller at great expense. Also separate EMS and TCM's generally offer poor driveabilty further making the project a boondoggle.

Sorry but will never happen. Anyone with the skill to do it would recognize the folly and probably swap in one of the myriad of domestic engines which weigh less, cost less and make much more power.
Now there's your motovation. Prove me wrong, get in that garage and spend 6 months and thousands of dollars on a motor that makes v6 power but weighs 3 times as much.
 

Last edited by icsamerica; Sep 22, 2016 at 09:11 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2016 | 10:27 AM
  #3  
Wiima63's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
Default

Funny, that engine is swapped in. Where I can confirm that engine is 6.0L and not 5.3L?
Now we aren't find huge power more. More effiency and driveability.
Coils are two as in my list. Ecu could drive 6 channel injectors and coils, so that isn't problem.
Tranny is "mechanical" and don't have controller.
I have assembled several ems, so I have some experience on that. But I think there comes some difficulties still.
All changes I'll make that I can come back, but this isn't option But let see how this would go and hope people helps when I have tough questions.
This would be daily driver in summers, but this is hobby to me.
 
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2017 | 01:09 AM
  #4  
Wiima63's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
Default

It's alive! Some time has gone and many other side projects made.
Engine management system changed to MaxxEcu Street.
Now have to finish assembly and tune on chassis dyno.
Here some taste of mods.
 
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2017 | 03:13 PM
  #5  
sov211's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,918
Likes: 2,524
From: Victoria, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Wiima63
It's alive! Some time has gone and many other side projects made.
Engine management system changed to MaxxEcu Street.
Now have to finish assembly and tune on chassis dyno.
Here some taste of mods.
https://youtu.be/v6P1AJMkPAo
In answer to your earlier question, the engine is the 5.3 litre, not 6 litre version.
 
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2017 | 04:57 PM
  #6  
ronbros's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,362
Likes: 1,241
From: Austin tx and Daytona FL.
Default

quick pic of my EMS SDS, been 22yrs still runs fine!

rails are close to same, )O-ring top and bottom of injector.

SX FPR, custom tank and fuel system.
 
Attached Thumbnails XJ12 S3 6.0 engine management upgrade project-trunk-xjs-fuel-system-union-jack-001.jpg   XJ12 S3 6.0 engine management upgrade project-jag-strut-brace-mom-ridin-shot-gun-v12-exhuast-mani-002.jpg   XJ12 S3 6.0 engine management upgrade project-sds-programmer-pix-003.jpg  
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2017 | 10:21 PM
  #7  
Wiima63's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by sov211
In answer to your earlier question, the engine is the 5.3 litre, not 6 litre version.
Is there code where I can confirm that or something else to identify 5.3/6.0?
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2017 | 02:05 PM
  #8  
Eric Cantonese's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 41
Likes: 2
From: New York, USA
Default

Originally Posted by Wiima63
It's alive! Some time has gone and many other side projects made.
Engine management system changed to MaxxEcu Street.
Now have to finish assembly and tune on chassis dyno.
Here some taste of mods.
https://youtu.be/v6P1AJMkPAo
Did you have to get anything customized or fabricated to make the MaxxEcu work? It'd be interesting to know more details about what you had to go through.

I seem to see a lot of people on Megasquirt forums looking for help on making them work with Jaguar v12s, so your head could be swimming with a lot of sought-after information.

That conversion seems to have tidied up the engine bay quite a lot.
 
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2017 | 02:19 PM
  #9  
Wiima63's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8
Likes: 3
Default

I have made Megasquirt assemblies about 10 years now. So this MaxxEcu is similar.
Nothing speacial needed to do for Maxx. Biggest problem to me was spark order to figure Jaguar style code. Later thinking it was quite straight way to do, because original ecu is own unit and then it is "easy" to swap.
 
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 PM.