93 XJ220. FACTORY V12 5speed - was this an option?
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93 XJ220. FACTORY V12 5speed - was this an option?
https://www.justcars.com.au/cars-for...e/JCFFD5008743
I thought these all came from the factory with the V6. This sale calls it “presented in original condition”.
Price is as stunning as the car.
I thought these all came from the factory with the V6. This sale calls it “presented in original condition”.
Price is as stunning as the car.
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No, not the Duratec V6. That came a lot later. The engine is the Rover V6 as fitted to the Metro Rallye car. The Duratec (Ford) V6 was first used in a Jaguar in the S Type. Then the X Type as well as the XJ (X350). A good engine in the Mondeo, a bad engine in a Jag (as the Jag engineers made it worse).
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It was a public relations disaster with endless court cases brought against Jaguar by very wealthy and annoyed customers who had quite clearly been deceived - even if the contract allowed any changes whatsoever to be made by Jaguar. A classic case of how not to handle a problem.
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wiki must be wrong, look up Jaguar 220, they say Austin Rover V64V-V6 engine.
instead of a completly different block outer casting molds ,they used some V8 molds but only 6 cylinder bores.
it is true almost nothing related to the GM 215 aluminum engine was used , only took 50years and many changes.
interesting that ALLEN SCOTT was involved in the engine design , but the last paragraph , was bitter against the actual driving and handling of the car.
altho i'd still love to own one!!
ron
instead of a completly different block outer casting molds ,they used some V8 molds but only 6 cylinder bores.
it is true almost nothing related to the GM 215 aluminum engine was used , only took 50years and many changes.
interesting that ALLEN SCOTT was involved in the engine design , but the last paragraph , was bitter against the actual driving and handling of the car.
altho i'd still love to own one!!
ron
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wiki must be wrong, look up Jaguar 220, they say Austin Rover V64V-V6 engine.
instead of a completly different block outer casting molds ,they used some V8 molds but only 6 cylinder bores.
it is true almost nothing related to the GM 215 aluminum engine was used , only took 40years and many changes.
interesting that ALLEN SCOTT was involved in the engine design , but the last paragraph , was bitter against the actual driving and handling of the car.
altho i'd still love to own one!!
ron
instead of a completly different block outer casting molds ,they used some V8 molds but only 6 cylinder bores.
it is true almost nothing related to the GM 215 aluminum engine was used , only took 40years and many changes.
interesting that ALLEN SCOTT was involved in the engine design , but the last paragraph , was bitter against the actual driving and handling of the car.
altho i'd still love to own one!!
ron
The Buick engine was used in the big 3litre, and the 2000 shell, MGBGT and a few others but never the Jags.
Apparently once the Rover engineers had it installed in the 3litre they had some of the Buick people over and they couldn’t believe it was the same engine?
I used one in the early seventies as a taxi in B’ham UK (the 3.5), ludicrous thinking about it now but it was fun
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Yes it was the Buick engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin..._6R4_rally_car
Cheers
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to add to the story, the actual Buick 215 aluminum engine was designed in the late 1940s,Wiki, to be used in the Buick LeSabre 1951 supercharged!
wiki ,Buick Le Sabre 1951. read how far ahead it was, WILD LOOKING CAR.
little more here , ME growing up in USA ,was running a small engine performance shop 1962, a guy from the OLDSMOBILE Dealer brought in a 1962 TURBOCHARGED Oldsmobile Jetfire.
saying it had no performance , i played around with it ,found a small light on dash, got some paper work from GM , and the water methenol injection tank was empty! filled it up and went like good, the American Big BLocks were showing up and for acceleration nothing could beat them!
was one of the 1st mass produced cars with all alumninum engine ,turbocharged , W/Meth injection in the world, 1962 Oldsmobile F85/Jetfire.. wiki.
thing is I got to drive one and work on it for couple days!
also it was supposed to use the GM/Buick/Olds. aluminum blocks, donno , so Rover has a long aqaintence with them!
ron
wiki ,Buick Le Sabre 1951. read how far ahead it was, WILD LOOKING CAR.
little more here , ME growing up in USA ,was running a small engine performance shop 1962, a guy from the OLDSMOBILE Dealer brought in a 1962 TURBOCHARGED Oldsmobile Jetfire.
saying it had no performance , i played around with it ,found a small light on dash, got some paper work from GM , and the water methenol injection tank was empty! filled it up and went like good, the American Big BLocks were showing up and for acceleration nothing could beat them!
was one of the 1st mass produced cars with all alumninum engine ,turbocharged , W/Meth injection in the world, 1962 Oldsmobile F85/Jetfire.. wiki.
thing is I got to drive one and work on it for couple days!
also it was supposed to use the GM/Buick/Olds. aluminum blocks, donno , so Rover has a long aqaintence with them!
ron
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