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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 06:44 AM
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Funny this has come up now, not a while ago I changed all the brake and clutch fluids on all my vehicles, lucky that all three had the same rating and specified the same fluid.
I used Bendix Dot4, Brake Fluid By Bendix - For High Performance which I bought in 4ltrs. Have not found any of them to spongy on the pedal, quite the opposite rock hard and responsive to touch. My Xjs is 83 no ABS but my Pajero has ABS and is fine with the same fluid.
I use a pela vacuum oil pump with the correct size hose to change the fluid, takes me about 15min to totally change the fluid on my XJS starting from the right front wheel then to the left, then left rear and finally right rear, you will need about litre to be on the safe side.
Bendix recommends Dot4 for the XJS.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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None of them should be spongy, Dot4 is what came in it from the factory. Most people are concerned with the compressibility of DOT5.

The XJS bleeds pretty easy, probably takes more time to get it high enough in the air than anything
 
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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sidescrollin

For example, iif you had an MGB in the 60s and put dot3 commonly available in america in it, it would eat away the seals and the braking system would leak and fail. You had to put girling crimson in it
Mid-way through production, Dot4 became the standard on MGBs and the rubber was changed to synthetic.

Many people got all this confused and just continued trying to put the old stuff in the car to prevent it from being damaged. Not knowing better, they kept grabbing girling brake fluid, which was what they knew. This is why everyone thinks Castol GT LMA is the "right" fluid for the XJS, when it is just regular synthetic brake fluid.
I tend to believe this is all BS. I used run of the mill DOT 3 in my 65 Sunbeam Tiger (owned for 30+ years) with no issues. I have seen a lot of other people use USA K Mart brake fluid in their British cars and I have not seen any higher rate of failure on these cars than I have seen on those that only used Girling fluid. I would recommend using what the manufacturer recommends, but I do not believe DOT 3 or DOT 4 will dissolve the rubber parts on your old Brit car.
 

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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dleit53
65 Sunbeam Tiger
Oooooooh, snap. My very first car! I miss it so. Didn't really appreciate what I had at the time.

Agree on the confusion about DOT 3/4 fluids. It's simple subject made very complex with misinformation.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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Getting ready to change brake pads, disks and brake fluid in my '05 VP. Is ContiTech Brake Fluid Dot 4#18407-05379601 suitable.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Silicone brake fluid is what we DON'T use.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 09:28 AM
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From what I have heard, brake fluid is synthetic.... Any DOT 4 is what you should use.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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XJSFan is correct
 
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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exactly, it is just a marketing thing because the term has become recognizable with oils and to many buyers it just means "better".

The last time "brake fluid" wasn't synthetic was close to 50 years ago, when we used mineral oil
 
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 11:17 PM
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Silicone & Synthetic often get confused when not side by side.

Synthetic: OK
Silicone: Not OK
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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All brake fluid is synthetic, including silicone.

DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 are non-silicone and are intermixable.

DOT 5 is not intermixable with anything else.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizmuth Helm
Silicone & Synthetic often get confused when not side by side.

Synthetic: OK
Silicone: Not OK
Not really. Confusing a bottle that says DOT 3 with a bottle that says DOT 5 is pretty hard to do.
 
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