Erratic Electric Window Behavior
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Erratic Electric Window Behavior
The driver side (LH) electric window on my coupe has always been a bit slower than the passenger side, I attributed that to having been used more and maybe the motor was a little tired. Then the window started to stick about 1/4 of the way open (in both directions). Repeated pressing of the window control got it slowly past the stuck area, and it was fine above and below it.
Had occasion to open the door panel, inspected, cleaned and lubricated the window mechanism, channels, etc.), and for a while it worked perfectly. But then it slowed down , and started to stick again.
Redid the inspect/clean/lubricate procedure, same result.
Now here's the strange part: in humid or damp weather, it works perfectly. In dry weather, it sticks. Do I just need to keep lubricating the channel until its "re-hydrated" for lack of a better term? Is there something better to use than WD-40 to clean and white lithium grease to lubricate?
Had occasion to open the door panel, inspected, cleaned and lubricated the window mechanism, channels, etc.), and for a while it worked perfectly. But then it slowed down , and started to stick again.
Redid the inspect/clean/lubricate procedure, same result.
Now here's the strange part: in humid or damp weather, it works perfectly. In dry weather, it sticks. Do I just need to keep lubricating the channel until its "re-hydrated" for lack of a better term? Is there something better to use than WD-40 to clean and white lithium grease to lubricate?
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What's the condition of the felt run channel? Sometimes they sorta start to disentigrate and bunch up in spots....or are so worn that the glass is a bit floppy and can actually bind-up a bit.
WD40 is a marvelous mild solvent and white lith grease is great for many purposes. However I suggest cleaning the felt channel with brake wash, letting it dry, and then using silicone spray. That works best in this situation, in my experience.
Cheers
DD
WD40 is a marvelous mild solvent and white lith grease is great for many purposes. However I suggest cleaning the felt channel with brake wash, letting it dry, and then using silicone spray. That works best in this situation, in my experience.
Cheers
DD
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OK, cleaned the channels with brake cleaner and q-tips, lots of black gunk removed. Let it dry all day, then gave it a good shot of silicone spray.
Unfortunately, the window was still sticking, actually worse now in the same range of travel as before. It was slower and you could hear it trying to move (intermittent squeaking like sneakers on a hardwood basketball court).
Cleaned again the next day with a clean q-tip (no additional brake cleaner) and sprayed more silicone. Minimal improvement.
Noticed the inner side surfaces of the channel looked all puckered - wonder if that why its binding worse. Also the window tips back (towards the rear of the car) a slight bit just as it frees up, and tips forward when it starts to bind, Could it be loose on its mounting inside the door?
Meanwhile, today its raining - and the window is working perfectly. The channel looks smooth again. What the...?
Unfortunately, the window was still sticking, actually worse now in the same range of travel as before. It was slower and you could hear it trying to move (intermittent squeaking like sneakers on a hardwood basketball court).
Cleaned again the next day with a clean q-tip (no additional brake cleaner) and sprayed more silicone. Minimal improvement.
Noticed the inner side surfaces of the channel looked all puckered - wonder if that why its binding worse. Also the window tips back (towards the rear of the car) a slight bit just as it frees up, and tips forward when it starts to bind, Could it be loose on its mounting inside the door?
Meanwhile, today its raining - and the window is working perfectly. The channel looks smooth again. What the...?
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The problem was a clean but unlubricated area of the window channel inside the door frame. Didn't want to remove the door panel again (three times was my limit), so I rolled the window all the way down and applied the recommended silicon spray down the channel front and rear using the small spray tube extender.
Been working perfectly since, and its hot and dry today.
Been working perfectly since, and its hot and dry today.
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The problem was a clean but unlubricated area of the window channel inside the door frame. Didn't want to remove the door panel again (three times was my limit), so I rolled the window all the way down and applied the recommended silicon spray down the channel front and rear using the small spray tube extender.
Been working perfectly since, and its hot and dry today.
Been working perfectly since, and its hot and dry today.
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both of mine are slow. cleaning all contact will help a little, but the felt channels are the prime suspect. When my drivers gets about 3/4 up it slows, if i push my window to the side it goes the rest of the way.
This wiggle room lets it jam to a side and is a result of the felt channels needing replacing. Be careful not to burn up your motor before you replace them.
How to replace them i haven't looked into, i hope its nothing like my MGB, because 98% of the door assembly needs to be removed for that.
This wiggle room lets it jam to a side and is a result of the felt channels needing replacing. Be careful not to burn up your motor before you replace them.
How to replace them i haven't looked into, i hope its nothing like my MGB, because 98% of the door assembly needs to be removed for that.
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TexasScot - the window only had a slight bit of play towards the front and rear of the car, only noticeable when it got "unstuck" going up or down. No side-to-side motion that I could see.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
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TexasScot - the window only had a slight bit of play towards the front and rear of the car, only noticeable when it got "unstuck" going up or down. No side-to-side motion that I could see.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
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TexasScot - the window only had a slight bit of play towards the front and rear of the car, only noticeable when it got "unstuck" going up or down. No side-to-side motion that I could see.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
Been working smooth and fast since the weekend, am tempted to clean and lubricate the passenger side window as its just slightly slower now.
I did mean side to side as in front to back (with the door closed :-) ). The question is: Is the window being dragged to the side causing it to go off-square because of friction in one side channel, or is the window being pushed up off-square driving it into the channel at one side?
In either case cleaning and friction reduction will lessen the problem but if its the latter it wont fix it.
I cant remember the exact design but could it be than one of the wheel in the regulator channel gets a bit stuck causing it to tilt the glass? Is his possible, or am I over thinking this?
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