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Hi guys, I'm sad to announce that my beautiful 92 V12 XJS Conv (British racing Green and Tan top) was written off by ICBC (Vancouver state insurers) this week.
There was a flood and water/mud got into the car to just over the seat bases.
Apparently, here in Vancouver Canada, all cars that are flood damaged are marked to be disassembled and can never be insured as a "whole" car again.
The thing is the car had only done 27,000 km. That is real mileage - no BS. I only ever used it in the summer (And not every summer) and never drove it in the rain.... the irony of that is not lost on me. I have had the car for over 22 years. I had planned to be buried in it.
All the engine fluids and seals were replaced about one month ago and the Wiper motor had just been rebuilt.
The only other damage the flood did was the driver side rear turn signal lens was smashed. I know how rare these are.
The body work was pristine.
The soft top had a couple of small tears in it. It's probably full of mold now anyway.
So if anyone is looking for body parts and a pristine engine... you know where to look.
I'm going to sign off on everything tomorrow - I don't think they can do anything to her before then.
Sorry to hear that, man. I grew up in the Florida Keys and that was pretty normal there. The thing is, when a car gets flooded, it has mysterious electrical gremlins for years, and when water gets inside the body, it can rust from the inside out without any real signs.
Are you going to totally break it down, any parts free game, or are you trying to sell it mostly whole?
I'd love some seats, but that is something most people know they can sell for a good price, so Idk if I can afford it. I'd also be interested in the headlights and bezels if you have the euro type, possible the dash top if it is compatible with older cars.
Sorry guys but I do not have the car anymore. ICBC, the state insurer, has it. They will be breaking it up.
I have not signed the papers yet, so the car should still be intact. I couldn't get there today because I had to wait in for a nice man to fix the flood damaged furnace. I will be signing off tomorrow - I will ask who you should contact to get bits.
And - NO. I did not get a good amount for the car. My choice was take the money offered , I argued it up as much as I could, or take the car back with no money and break it up yourself. It would never be insurable again.... even it I proved I stripped it back to the bare metal. I would have had to find another chassis in as good condition.
I don't believe the water damage was that bad. A creek up hill from us dammed up and a ton of water came our way. We were woken at 2:00 am by firemen banging on the door and we had to evacuate for a few hours. We were on the local news looking very soggy. The jag was at the lowest point in the drive. My 2 other cars were untouched. So the water and mud line was up to about 4 inches below the level of the center console. Small amounts of mud were on seats, I don't know how it got there. The level of the seat is above the water line.
At the time of the accident the only problem with the car was the soft top needed replacing and I had removed the aerial and was about to source a new one.
This is too late to help this case, but it might be wise to consider insuring with a Stated Value Company, Like Haggarty or Grundy. With these companies you state a realistic value of your car and if they accept your valued, they insure on that amount.
I had a minor collision with another car. (Well below the stated value and my deductible.) Grundy handled the claim perfectly.
Last edited by afterburner1; 07-15-2016 at 10:33 AM.
could you please enter the VIN number for your machine at XJSData.com as it allows us to keep track of the XJS as time rolls on. I have personally crushed 10 machines after parting out good salvage parts. Less than 7000 in the UK according to reports, worldwide????? Cars that are lumped should also be reported as they have less value as Jaguar machines. Sorry about your loss. Thanks in advance, best, JW
To find out where you can obtain parts the person to call at ICBC is Jill Reid 604-777 4535.
The Jag is referenced under - AN 34014-1.
I believe this may be the lady I had quite a heated conversation with and demanded to speak to her superior at the end of the call. So I have no desire to call her - you're on your own boys.
Well, win 10 dumped my post in midst of construction.
1. Too bad. That car could've been properly repaired. many flood cars are not properly repaired and enter the market and are forever an issue. Hence the one size fits all "reasoning" to crush them all!!!
2. Sad you were not paid properly. Had I known I might have given you some support. I've never adjusted a Canadian policy loss. More than a few USA ones over 50 years, though!! Do ones own research for value and use comparables. Blue Book alone is inadequate.
Most policies have an Appraisal condition. Disputes as to value resolved this way. Insured picks representative. Insuror picks one.
The two pick a third. those folks come up with the number. Whatever it is governs.
3. A government insurer? Woweee, no wonder. Who regulates them? No one, huh!!!
4. They will not sell parts of it. It will go tyo a junk yard and becomer merchandise,
5.. Get back on the horse. Get another Jaguar
6. Were it possible, I'd be sorely tempted, It isn't so....
...The car can never be insured again - it is logged in their records as dead. It has to be broken up and can no longer exist as a whole. I had several heated phone conversations about this. So I would have to have another XJS to switch parts onto. Also cannibalising my baby would hurt too much... don't think I could do it. Don't have the time anyway.
So, I appreciate the offer but I can't see it working.
Yesterday I signed off on everything. They gave me my plates back and told me to go cancel the insurance. If I'd known the car was going to get scrapped I'd have removed the badge as a reminder... so having the plates helped ease the pain. Then the insurance woman took them off me... wouldn't even let me keep the front one... that hurt.
I will get a Jag again in a few years. That's a promise. Thinking an E-type next time. Shame I won't have my engine to swap into it. That or a brand new one. If you're a Brit there's something coded into your DNA about Jags, Range Rovers, Land Rovers and Moggy 1000s (Travellers especially). We can't stay away from them for long.
Ok, understandable. I had a look at the ICBC auction site over coffee this morning and the car is already listed for bids.
When I told the boys your story and how it had such low mileage for a '92, one of the guys said "OK, follow me out of the parking lot, I've got a car to show you" ..
...and here it is, I was allowed to take a photo (but no touch-y )
It's also a 92 Jag, one owner from new ...less than 3000 km on this one!
had to show I.D. to get in to see this!
Bought new in 1992, value has increased somewhat since then.
The engine was perfect before the flood. The electrics were totally dead after so I could not start it. That was the only time she didn't fire up first time.
No idea if it will fit. I would love it to go to a good home.
07-13-2016, 04:22 PM
Jag a write off - parts will be for sale by ICBC
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