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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BenKenobi
if I replace both coils and place a single DAC6093 in place of the coil by the throttle pedestal this is all that is needed and the system becomes single coil.
That is basically what Jaguar did for the later Series III V12 saloons. You're looking for a coil with a primary resistance of about 0.5 ohms. The coil on the V12 saloons is located near the throttle pedestal.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 03:20 AM
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Ben,

I used a FuelMiser CC215 "Universal Electronic Ignition" coil on all of them, never had issues. Down here, back then, $45. That brand and number probably means squat up Norht, and remember I did all mine before the WWW was popular enough to be helpful. Did not have a home computer at the time.

The USA got SO MUCH stuff that restricts so much more stuff, that they are really up against it sometimes. They also got the 11.5:1 engine, we all got the 12.5:1 beast.

 
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BenKenobi
Never thought of that - makes sense now you mention it - I did wonder what they were thinking to locate it there, think I'll leave it there and fix the wires.
keep in mind it only is cooled when there is a lot of air flowing through it. Idle and residential driving it is probably closer to coolant temperature.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 08:56 PM
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Not quite. Air intake temps do get close to 70C in idle conditions, but drop quite quickly when moving.

Relocating the amp above the rad exposes it to all the heat rising off the radiator and when the car is stationary absolutely no air moving over it either. The intake manifold does have air going through it whenever the engine is running, so there is always a cooling effect, sometimes greater than others.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagboi64
Relocating the amp above the rad exposes it to all the heat rising off the radiator and when the car is stationary absolutely no air moving over it either. The intake manifold does have air going through it whenever the engine is running, so there is always a cooling effect, sometimes greater than others.
We are recommending relocating the amp to a place in front of the rad, not above it.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagboi64
Not quite. Air intake temps do get close to 70C in idle conditions, but drop quite quickly when moving.

Relocating the amp above the rad exposes it to all the heat rising off the radiator and when the car is stationary absolutely no air moving over it either. The intake manifold does have air going through it whenever the engine is running, so there is always a cooling effect, sometimes greater than others.
If you put that amp on the radiator support TOP panel and shut the bonnet, there will be 2 nice neat dents in that bonnet, I did that, lack of beer was my excuse.

Out on the Horizontal panel IN FRONT of the radiator pack is COOL, and there is more than enough ambient air floating around when in traffic to satisfy its needs.

If you have the OE air cleaner covers, where the snorkel is pointing AT the radiator, and or fan, that air it HOT, no matter what you are doing.

If I could find a suitable LONG HT lead, of GOOD or BETTER, quality, the Ign Coil would go out there to keep that Amp company.

Engine bays are just to damn hot, with the emissions these older spec engines are forced to meet.

I recently replaced the Coil Pack Loom on the AJ16, in the X300. It was crispy and cracked at the rear of the cylinder head, and looked exactly like it had come from a V12 hangout.

Nothing changed in the Auto electrickery world. 20 years tops, and after that, you are simply on borrowed time.
 

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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BenKenobi
Guess I need to read some more - I missed this single coil mod - where is that explained

I did a little read but it still isn't very clear (ended up in some rant about California smog rules - justifiiably but I ain't firing that up again) if I replace both coils and place a single DAC6093 in place of the coil by the throttle pedestal this is all that is needed and the system becomes single coil.
I experienced this first hand. XJ12: when the tach hit 3500, it shut off like a light switch. New single coil: red line!

Good luck,
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagboi64
Not quite. Air intake temps do get close to 70C in idle conditions, but drop quite quickly when moving.

Relocating the amp above the rad exposes it to all the heat rising off the radiator and when the car is stationary absolutely no air moving over it either. The intake manifold does have air going through it whenever the engine is running, so there is always a cooling effect, sometimes greater than others.
where were you measuring that temperature?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjeffs
where were you measuring that temperature?
It comes from a write up done by a Jaguar Emissions Engineer, I have not measured it myself
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg in France
We are recommending relocating the amp to a place in front of the rad, not above it.
That makes more sense, I thought I was beside the receiver dryer for the AC, which is a hot location.
 
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