Slight hesitation when cold, occasional stall when warm
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Slight hesitation when cold, occasional stall when warm
Hello All
My XJS has been running beautifully, yet not perfectly, and I've tried and failed to isolate exactly what is the problem.
When cold, there is a slight hesitation when you first press the accelerator. When warm, the idle comes down as it should, but it 'hunts' a little bit between 700-800 rpm, and sometimes it will stall when in reverse gear. Not sure why it only stalls in reverse, but not drive. I've been combing the archives, but I can't put my finger on the cause.
I've done the following recently:
Full cooling system
New plugs and leads
New dist. cap, rotor and 'Marelli fix'
Professional injector cleaning and fuel rail refurb
New fuel injection harness
Fixed the AAV
Adjusted the throttle plates
Checked throttle rods & bushings
Calibrated the TPS
Recent Italian tune up
Thanks for any advice or clues!
@Grant Francis @Greg in France@Doug
My XJS has been running beautifully, yet not perfectly, and I've tried and failed to isolate exactly what is the problem.
When cold, there is a slight hesitation when you first press the accelerator. When warm, the idle comes down as it should, but it 'hunts' a little bit between 700-800 rpm, and sometimes it will stall when in reverse gear. Not sure why it only stalls in reverse, but not drive. I've been combing the archives, but I can't put my finger on the cause.
I've done the following recently:
Full cooling system
New plugs and leads
New dist. cap, rotor and 'Marelli fix'
Professional injector cleaning and fuel rail refurb
New fuel injection harness
Fixed the AAV
Adjusted the throttle plates
Checked throttle rods & bushings
Calibrated the TPS
Recent Italian tune up
Thanks for any advice or clues!
@Grant Francis @Greg in France@Doug
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Lots of 'could be' scenarios.
Post #13 in this thread comes to mind as one possibility/fix
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...r-info-207647/
Cheers
DD
Post #13 in this thread comes to mind as one possibility/fix
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...r-info-207647/
Cheers
DD
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If there's a lack of fuel pressure, which would cause under-fueling, a warm engine might tolerate it without complaint where a cold engine wouldn't.
Conversely, too high fuel pressure would cause over-fueling....which a cold engine might love but a warm engine reject.
Cheers
DD
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here's something to check:
The 'idle switch' on the LH throttle bell crank. The switch should be closed when the throttle is closed and open as soon..instantly... as the throttle is opened. This switch is on Marelli cars and does "something" with the ignition timing....not sure what exactly.
Easy enough to check. If faulty it might be another situation where a cold engine is more sensitive to the fault than a warm engine.
Cheers
DD
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I took a little time to see if I could find anything that might explain something, and discovered that the microswitch located on the bracket at the outer end of the left throttle operating rod was not closing at idle. It's about 1mm off from closing. I think this microswitch changes timing or ECU signals at idle versus open throttle.
Should I adjust the throttle rod so the switch closes? Would this explain my symptoms?
Thanks!
Should I adjust the throttle rod so the switch closes? Would this explain my symptoms?
Thanks!
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here's something to check:
The 'idle switch' on the LH throttle bell crank. The switch should be closed when the throttle is closed and open as soon..instantly... as the throttle is opened. This switch is on Marelli cars and does "something" with the ignition timing....not sure what exactly.
Easy enough to check. If faulty it might be another situation where a cold engine is more sensitive to the fault than a warm engine.
Cheers
DD
The 'idle switch' on the LH throttle bell crank. The switch should be closed when the throttle is closed and open as soon..instantly... as the throttle is opened. This switch is on Marelli cars and does "something" with the ignition timing....not sure what exactly.
Easy enough to check. If faulty it might be another situation where a cold engine is more sensitive to the fault than a warm engine.
Cheers
DD
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The idle switch adjusts ignition timing for closed throttle running in conjunction with engine speed and coolant temperature, this could explain why you have different symptoms for a cold and warm engine.
Here is a copy of the Marelli supplement page 6 has some info on cold and warm running.
Adjust the idle switch, then get the engine dialled in warm. Hopefully this will fix your issues.
Here is a copy of the Marelli supplement page 6 has some info on cold and warm running.
Adjust the idle switch, then get the engine dialled in warm. Hopefully this will fix your issues.
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