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Old 11-25-2018, 01:12 PM
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I intend to take it off the road for around 3 months for the main winter months and salt treated roads.

any advice for keeping everything in good condition?

i've got the battery trickle charger on!

How often should I start it? How long should I leave at idle to get nice and hot? Set air con to ice cold? Aircon can suffer can't it when not used.

i guess also a good idea to reverse out he garage just to use the brakes. Is it worth putting extra pressure in the tyres as sat on the same spot?
Anything to lubricate? Garage is warmish as the heating boiler is in there.

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Old 11-25-2018, 01:23 PM
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Tyres to 40 psi, when I used to lay my mgc up I'd also apply lithium grease to the rubber.

Intelligent trickle charger yes, also a dehumidifier in the cabin...one of those crystal based ones

No need to start it at all, unless out of curiosity

Ensure it's washed thoroughly dried and with a nice coat of wax...car cover optional. And minimal fuel in the tank as this degrades by a couple of points a month.

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Old 11-25-2018, 01:34 PM
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Tyres to 40 psi, when I used to lay my mgc up I'd also apply lithium grease to the rubber.

Intelligent trickle charger yes, also a dehumidifier in the cabin...one of those crystal based ones

No need to start it at all, unless out of curiosity

Ensure it's washed thoroughly dried and with a nice coat of wax...car cover optional. And minimal fuel in the tank as this degrades by a couple of points a month.

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When you say dehumidifier, you mean the moisture absorbing crystals in a tray like you put in caravans?
So no need to run the aircon? Someone told me about the seals can shrink if not used? When I bought it, I had to have it re-gassed as it wasn't blowing cold but they tested it first and seems fine.
Its got the 6 pot Alcon brakes, would 3 months not be a problem for the calliper pots sticking?
 
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You'll lose a percentage of gas whether used or not, just the nature of the AC beast.

I'd just drive it a couple miles on nice dry days. You guys do them on occasion during the winter right? Blown cars love cold weather.

Cold doesn't bother them unless the windows freeze to the doors. Then the car thinks the glass is down when it's up and you need to unhook the battery to get them to reset correctly. PITA...
 
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:13 PM
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You'll lose a percentage of gas whether used or not, just the nature of the AC beast.

I'd just drive it a couple miles on nice dry days. You guys do them on occasion during the winter right? Blown cars love cold weather.

Cold doesn't bother them unless the windows freeze to the doors. Then the car thinks the glass is down when it's up and you need to unhook the battery to get them to reset correctly. PITA...
The cold shouldn't be a problem as it's tucked up in a warm integral garage
May well just take it for a short spin!
 
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:23 PM
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3 months is nothing- my car frequently does that in summer (more cars than time)
However there is one thing that even die-hard morons have come to realize- gumming of delicate injectors and such, at least the possibility.
So if you want to be extra careful and avoid compounding, use a fuel system cleaner like techron before turning off for last time. As a added bonus, many of these fuel system cleaners are also excellent fuel preservers.
 
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Originally Posted by Swisstone


When you say dehumidifier, you mean the moisture absorbing crystals in a tray like you put in caravans?
So no need to run the aircon? Someone told me about the seals can shrink if not used? When I bought it, I had to have it re-gassed as it wasn't blowing cold but they tested it first and seems fine.
Its got the 6 pot Alcon brakes, would 3 months not be a problem for the calliper pots sticking?
Yep the moisture absorbing crystal things.

Forgot to say deep feed your leather so it can all get sucked in (As opposed being removed by your butt).
 
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:53 PM
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Ah right, didn't think about the injectors. I put Redex in every now and again, fuel is about a quarter at the moment. Will put some more treatment in and give it a last run!
 
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Old 11-25-2018, 04:26 PM
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Fill the tank with gas and add fuel stabilizer such as Sta-Bil. A full tank stops condensation forming in the tank and the Sta-Bil will keep the gas fresh.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
Tyres to 40 psi, when I used to lay my mgc up I'd also apply lithium grease to the rubber.

Intelligent trickle charger yes, also a dehumidifier in the cabin...one of those crystal based ones

No need to start it at all, unless out of curiosity

Ensure it's washed thoroughly dried and with a nice coat of wax...car cover optional. And minimal fuel in the tank as this degrades by a couple of points a month.

Sweet dreams!
I have read advice on filling the fuel tank to brimming rather than a minimal level when leaving the car for a winter break. The argument being that a half empty fuel tank promotes condensation inside the tank that can cause internal corrosion .
I personally would fill it.
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Woo5ie

I have read advice on filling the fuel tank to brimming rather than a minimal level .
I personally would fill it.
Exactly, for many reasons. Smaller the quantity of gasoline, the sooner it goes bad, like wine in a bottle.

 
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If you do run it - and you don't need to - get it decently hot, preferably 20 mile or more run. Don't just start and idle for 5 mins - worse than doing nothing.

+1 on full fuel, proper battery maintainer, etc.

Worry somewhat about rodents!
 
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Apologies on the fuel advice, I've not overwintered a car since the 80's (MGC) and such things as fuel stabilisers weren't available in the UK back then

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STA-BIL-F...YOTY:rk:4:pf:0

Looks like good stuff, and also you'll need the full bottle as treats 75l

On rodents I've noticed the evidence of a few up until a few years ago when I bought one of those ultrasonic things, no signs of any in 2yrs, and weirdly no spiders either!
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:27 AM
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I used to store my old Ferrari as it was prone to rust and being the engine required 20W-50 weight oil it was not conducive to starting in cold weather. As for the Jag I don't do anything different as I do get breaks in the weather where I can drive it. The only thing I keep an eye on is tire pressures and battery condition. At time my car would sit for 2-4 weeks on the lift in an unheated garage. Usually though the garage temps don't fall below 20*F and I have various rodent control methods to keep the critters out. As for fuel I always have it topped up and will still add a fuel stabilizer as a safety measure. I have read that with our 10% ethanol here gas is good for 90 days before it starts to gel. Even though I don't have it down for that long it is a good safety measure to add the stuff. So my simple approach may not be optimum for all but suits my needs. If you search the net you can find many methods people use.
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:46 AM
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Oh yes - if you can put more than 40psi in then do. 60psi if that's allowed - head for the max to prevent flat spots.
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:25 AM
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I put my car up from Nov 1 to Apr 1 each year. This is what I do (not necessarily in order):
Hook up battery maintainer
Tire pressure to 40 lbs (even though I read somewhere that radial tires are not susceptible to flat spots like the old bias tires were)
Oil change (I only put around 5k miles a year on the car. I like to change the oil annually)
Dehumidifier crystals (kit for RV) on front floor
Dryer sheets to keep spiders away (I've also heard this does not do anything, but I've done it for years on my boat)
Marine grade Stabil in gas (Marine grade helps with possible ethanol problems) There is some controversy as to filling the gas tank or not. It don't,.
Wash and dry car
Vacuum
Make sure rotors on disc brakes are dry and clear of any surface rust
Dust cover
I've heard that running your car for short periods of time in the winter does more harm than good, I leave mine alone until Spring
I also keep the car on a rubber mat in the garage year round.
 
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+1 on tire pressure, be sure to check your tires max limit first. Mine have a 51psi max, so I pumped them to 42psi in the cold, to allow some expansion when the temps rise again.
I’ve also read that getting the tires off the concrete/cement garage floor is as advisable, so I park on some 3/8 inch thick plywood squares.
+1 on the ‘smart charger’ over the winter, and I never start it unless I need to move it.
Never had a problem with gas going bad (lawn mower sits all winter, snow blower sits all summer), and other cars have sat for extended periods of time, so I skip the gas treatment.
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
I've not overwintered a car since the 80's
Another thing that's changed since is the leather.
You said " deep feed your leather so it can all get sucked in "
It no longer gets 'sucked in'*
Caution: you are adding moisture to the car- the very thing you want to remove before storing. So you would have to do this on a warm day.
However, you are not going to feed something that is clear-coated like modern leather is.
*Try it, take a drop of distilled water and see if it gets absorbed, it wont.

 
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Oil change (I only put around 5k miles a year on the car. I like to change the oil annually)
I would defer the oil change until the spring. Why change oil to only have it sit for months?
 
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:12 PM
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Not much to add. Consider parking it on poly. Moisture will leach up through the concrete. If you run the car but don't drive it, condensation will collect in the exhaust so run it long enough to burn off the moisture. Mothballs around the outside will deter mice if you have them. Rags in the tailpipe for the same reason, just don't forget you have them in there.
 


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