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Old Sep 5, 2023 | 07:32 PM
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Default Anyone ever get the Emergency Key cut without the Original?

I lost my only key fob. I was able to buy a blank and program it with SDD no problem.

But obviously I need to find someone with the ability to cut the emergency key.

Is that even possible without having to go the dealer route? I've seen quotes for $500 for key cutting and for $500 I'll tear up my house to find the old fob
 
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 02:15 AM
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I'm only aware of it being possible from Jaguar. In the UK, it's about £175 I think for a ready-cut key per the vin. You can order it through SNG Barratt.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 05:55 AM
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The Emergency Key is laser cut from the exceptionally hard material used for the blanks. I've read the occasional post where a US member claims to have found a locksmith with the necessary equipment to do this but as far as I recall this has always turned out to be the earlier Tibbe pattern used on previous models.

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YES!!! You can get the Key Code from any Jaguar dealership, you just need the current registration and your own identification. But like GGG said, many locksmiths have problems cutting the available key blanks. I was one of those people.

What I did is buy some 1/8-inch bar stock brass, one inch wide and made my OWN key blank. About ten minutes with a hacksaw and a file and it was nearly exact what the titanium (?) ones are, I even divoted out the slot for the retention in the FOB. This was cut very easily, and it's the one I use now.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 09:25 AM
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YES!!! You can get the Key Code from any Jaguar dealership, you just need the current registration and your own identification. But like GGG said, many locksmiths have problems cutting the available key blanks. I was one of those people.

What I did is buy some 1/8-inch bar stock brass, one inch wide and made my OWN key blank. About ten minutes with a hacksaw and a file and it was nearly exact what the titanium (?) ones are, I even divoted out the slot for the retention in the FOB. This was cut very easily, and it's the one I use now.
Great idea. Did the dealership throw up any static about getting the key code?

I have already called several locksmiths and they have all just said "go to dealer" even though I explained my situation, I don't need to program, I just need a key, etc.

I think an alternative also might be to wire up an external 12V cable so I can always provide power externally in case of a dead battery situation (which is the only reason I want the key) but having the actual key is better.
 
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Great idea. Did the dealership throw up any static about getting the key code?

I have already called several locksmiths and they have all just said "go to dealer" even though I explained my situation, I don't need to program, I just need a key, etc.

I think an alternative also might be to wire up an external 12V cable so I can always provide power externally in case of a dead battery situation (which is the only reason I want the key) but having the actual key is better.
I has zero problems whatsoever getting the code, other than the three day wait. Evidently the person I spoke with had to contact Coventry, or wherever Jaguar Headquarters is located. I still have that email with the code in case I need it again in the future.
The "external 12v cable" is already available beneath the left-rear of the boot, behind that wheel well. There is already a jump point there covered by a rubber cap. There is also a good chassis ground in that location. Several threads about this already.
 
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I has zero problems whatsoever getting the code, other than the three day wait. Evidently the person I spoke with had to contact Coventry, or wherever Jaguar Headquarters is located. I still have that email with the code in case I need it again in the future.
The "external 12v cable" is already available beneath the left-rear of the boot, behind that wheel well. There is already a jump point there covered by a rubber cap. There is also a good chassis ground in that location. Several threads about this already.
I know that location as that's where I will charge the battery from, but I have only accessed it through the plastic door inside the trunk. I did not know it was accessible from outside the car.
 
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When I bought my car it came with 2 fobs, one with a broken case and one with the key missing so I bought 2 key fob cases with key blanks from Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...2f22f19cvANUn1

I took the blanks to a Local locksmith in Tauranga who cut them (expensive at $35NZ each!) From the look of the new keys the blanks were chromed brass.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 11:57 PM
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hu101 blank all ford and pag used them. if your locksmith can't figure out how to cut an aluminum key they need a new job
 

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Originally Posted by silvertonesx24
I lost my only key fob. I was able to buy a blank and program it with SDD no problem.

But obviously I need to find someone with the ability to cut the emergency key.

Is that even possible without having to go the dealer route? I've seen quotes for $500 for key cutting and for $500 I'll tear up my house to find the old fob
I had to get an emergency key from the local Jag dealer in the beginning of Covid March 2020. I think it was about $300 and took 2 months as factory made in England. I also had to show the vehicle registration before the dealer would order the key.
I did have one that came with the car but did not work. Once I had the factory replacement, it was obvious that the one I had was the correct vertical pattern of cuts but the depth of the cuts (in thickness) was way too shallow. I had a local locksmith make a new key with an e-bay sourced blank plus recut the proper thickness depth on the original key I had. So now I have 3 working emergency keys.

After some research, I found the key type is a 10 cut type so see page 9 of the attached info. Although I haven’t tried this, I think a locksmith could use a proper “pick” for a Lishi hu101 key (which I’ve seen on locksmith supply web sites) to come up with the proper key number code. Each number corresponds to a vertical cut depth along the length of the key. Locksmith should be able to cut the key from that info.

Worth a query to your locksmith and has to be cheaper and quicker than getting a key from the dealer.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
I has zero problems whatsoever getting the code, other than the three day wait. Evidently the person I spoke with had to contact Coventry, or wherever Jaguar Headquarters is located. I still have that email with the code in case I need it again in the future.
The "external 12v cable" is already available beneath the left-rear of the boot, behind that wheel well. There is already a jump point there covered by a rubber cap. There is also a good chassis ground in that location. Several threads about this already.
Hey there, I’m in a bit of a fumble and I called jag to which they told me that it comes pre cut from the manufacturer and they do not have access to those codes, does anyone have any suggestions? I unfortunately don’t have the time or money to go through Jaguar.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MaddJag
Hey there, I’m in a bit of a fumble and I called jag to which they told me that it comes pre cut from the manufacturer and they do not have access to those codes, does anyone have any suggestions? I unfortunately don’t have the time or money to go through Jaguar.
Your Jag guy is full of hooey. That, or straight-up lied directly to you.
Your Key Code is accessible through any REPUTABLE dealership.
My local Jaguar dealership took my VIN and communicated with whomever they needed to communicate WITH and I got my Key Code the next day. Of course they needed a picture of the registration and my Driver License to verify I owned it, but that was a bunch of nothing.
 
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I just picked up a few keys for a few vehicles in the last month… with a call to the dealer. As they have my vins on file…. One of the keys was sourced in 2 days.

Of course, if you don’t want to go through the dealer…. it would be unsettling to learn that just “anyone” could source the code.

Justasec… you just joined the forum and are asking how to get a key made without the code and avoiding the dealer… hmmm.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 05:27 PM
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hu101 decoder go call a locksmith
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 05:34 PM
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hu101 decoder go call a locksmith
I have a Lishi tool somewhere, I used it when some renters put a lock on the storage room. It's 'probably' in my house... somewhere. SC-something. That was when they were still over $100. Half that price now.
Nifty little things, but some jurisdictions call them "Burglar Tools", so they may be a problem in some cities.
 
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A possible cheapest way to get the emergency key, is to order it at the parts department in a Jaguar dealership. The English key cutter then mails it to your residence. If you order it via the service desk, you may have to pay a service charge. A good price is around $150 USD.
 
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Originally Posted by silvertonesx24
I lost my only key fob. I was able to buy a blank and program it with SDD no problem.

But obviously I need to find someone with the ability to cut the emergency key.

Is that even possible without having to go the dealer route? I've seen quotes for $500 for key cutting and for $500 I'll tear up my house to find the old fob
I know this thread is a couple years old, but I am posting to help anyone in this situation reading now.
I contacted my local Jaguar dealership for the code to have a new blank blade cut for my 2018 Jaguar XE

and was told they don't give the code out and I would have to order the key from them... I did not like that.
My solution... I found several ebay listings for used lock cylinders with a key. I paid $42.69 and received my order a few days later. I found a video on YouTube which showed me how to replace the lock cylinder,and it was
very easy. When you open the door there is a black plastic plug on the end of the door, remove that plug and there is a T-25 Torx screw head behind it, just loosen that screw all the way there is a retaing clip that prevents it from falling or coming all the way out so just loosen it until it is just spinning and not coming out anymore. Then remove the cover like you normally would to access the emergency lock, and pull on your lock handle to get it out of the way while you pull the lock cylinder straight out, put the new (used) cylinder in tighten the torx screw back up and put the plastic plug back in and you're done. I also found a $21.39 ebay listing for a new cut blade if you have either the code or you can send a picture of the key, so now that I have a new (used) key I made that ebay purchase sent a picture of the key and now I have 2 keys. So it basically cost me $62.08 for 2 keys and Jaguar no longer knows my real code which is a bonus.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
I have a Lishi tool somewhere, I used it when some renters put a lock on the storage room. It's 'probably' in my house... somewhere. SC-something. That was when they were still over $100. Half that price now.
Nifty little things, but some jurisdictions call them "Burglar Tools", so they may be a problem in some cities.
This is the way I was going to suggest. I often buy cars from auction that have no keys and as such have many Lishi's. I am not a locksmith. This is one of those things that, as a full libertarian myself, drives me crazy. They are not "illegal" to purchase or technically not illegal to own. However, if they are found on your person or in your possession by law enforcement, they can arrest you:

If any person has in their possession any tools, implements, or outfit (commonly referred to as "burglarious tools") with the intent to commit burglary, robbery, or larceny, they are guilty of a Class 5 felony. Additionally, the possession of such tools by anyone other than a licensed dealer is considered prima facie evidence of such intent.

So, therefore "guilty of intent to commit a crime" with the requirement of your to prove your innocence. Guilty until proven innocent. So, keep this in mind to anyone who may be interested in them. I don't carry it around with me by habit. Only if I am specifically needing it for a car I am picking up that I, or someone who is with me, owns.

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Originally Posted by farm-jag
This is the way I was going to suggest. I often buy cars from auction that have no keys and as such have many Lishi's. I am not a locksmith. This is one of those things that, as a full libertarian myself, drives me crazy. They are not "illegal" to purchase or technically not illegal to own. However, if they are found on your person or in your possession by law enforcement, they can arrest you:

If any person has in their possession any tools, implements, or outfit (commonly referred to as "burglarious tools") with the intent to commit burglary, robbery, or larceny, they are guilty of a Class 5 felony. Additionally, the possession of such tools by anyone other than a licensed dealer is considered prima facie evidence of such intent.

So, therefore "guilty of intent to commit a crime" with the requirement of your to prove your innocence. Guilty until proven innocent. So, keep this in mind to anyone who may be interested in them. I don't carry it around with me by habit. Only if I am specifically needing it for a car I am picking up that I, or someone who is with me, owns.

mike
I have many of these types of tools, but as a property owner with many rentals, I can justify having the tools and have never been questioned beyond that point about them.
 
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. I also found a $21.39 ebay listing for a new cut blade if you have either the code or you can send a picture of the key
Can you share the ebay listing.
 
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