XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

cold air intake

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 01:59 PM
  #1  
southerngearhead's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: SC
Question cold air intake

anyone bought or built a good cold air intake for the XKR? the stock unit is dismal in design. want to start upgrades with intake and exhaust before moving to tuning and blower work.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 02:20 PM
  #2  
Queen and Country's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 7,420
Likes: 2,395
From: Hastings
Default

Originally Posted by southerngearhead
XKR? the stock unit is dismal in design.
No its not. You can change it, but you wont demonstrably improve it- which is why you cant simply find an aftermarket one.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 09:11 PM
  #3  
tberg's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,008
Likes: 2,622
From: Los Angeles
Default

Chris, at Mina Galleries, has asked me to bring my car in to his shop as he wants to develop one for our cars. I just haven't had the time, but have told him I will get it to him sometime soon.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 09:32 PM
  #4  
Tp10XKR's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 269
Likes: 141
From: North Wales, PA. USA
Default

Two K&N air filters in the factory boxes is all their is and all you need to get a little better flow! Put them in my car and no issues.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 10:13 PM
  #5  
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,889
Likes: 6,399
From: Kaysville, Utah, US
Default

I've had K&N filters for about four years now, never had a problem with oil, dirt or debris.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2019 | 10:20 PM
  #6  
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,107
Likes: 7,119
From: Atlanta suburbs
Default

I'll believe the K&N marketing hype after you show me the data from an unbiased source that is proof of a performance increase over a stock Jaguar X150 at 1,000 RPM intervals from 2,500 RPMs to 6,500 RPMs. Ain't gonna happen .

If the oil soaked foam element actually worked, don't you think Jaguar and all the major manufacturers would be using it today? That's exactly what my 1960 Corvette came from the factory with - a reusable oil soaked foam element. GM abandoned that in 1965 and switched to disposable paper element filters. Why? New technology paper filtered better with less restrictive airflow and produced more HP.

K&N is living in the past. Performance increases, if any, occur only at WOT and the highest RPMs with a freshly-oiled filter. If you let it go for 25 000 miles before cleaning and re-oiling it, just imagine how much crud is getting through and mucking up your engine.

Your car, your money, your choice.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 12:50 AM
  #7  
Queen and Country's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 7,420
Likes: 2,395
From: Hastings
Default

Originally Posted by Stuart S
If the oil soaked cotton element actually worked,
Hats off to Karen&Nancy though, who would have thunk that die-hard more-ons would never question why primitive technology is being sold for 20times what it previously sold for.
These are the guys who think anything premium is a scam.

 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:32 AM
  #8  
Ranchero50's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 2,936
Likes: 978
From: Hagerstown MD
Default

Add in that K+N compared their new filter to a dirty old caked solid paper filter and you have all the info you need...
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 11:17 AM
  #9  
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,889
Likes: 6,399
From: Kaysville, Utah, US
Default

 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 02:12 PM
  #10  
SinF's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 6,986
Likes: 2,157
From: Canada, eh
Default

K&N = turbonator. Don't fall for it, don't put dirt into your engine.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 02:30 PM
  #11  
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,107
Likes: 7,119
From: Atlanta suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by Cee Jay
That test used a K&N "Panel Filter". Is that the same thing as the K&N million-mile washable and reusable filter that is refreshed with oil?

That K&N "Panel Filter" makes more HP and torque by being less restrictive than the OEM filter. Less restrictive means more airflow and, most likely, less filtering and more crud in the intake.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:16 PM
  #12  
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,889
Likes: 6,399
From: Kaysville, Utah, US
Default

 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:28 PM
  #13  
Queen and Country's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 7,420
Likes: 2,395
From: Hastings
Default

Ha ha ha!!
The only thing you want to filter for is carbon and actual abrasives- not even on that test.
Actually, soot is there, but miraculously its at 0!
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:38 PM
  #14  
MarkyUK's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,628
Likes: 671
From: Somerset UK
Default

Mine has K&N's fitted by the previous owner.

Yes CJ's oil analysis was fine but surely the better way would be to do dyno runs with both clean oem/aftermarket paper and K&N, I remember reading conflicting reports on dyno gains, but there was little to no difference with the greatest being 8bhp

What OP/Southerngearhead hasn't told us is which XKR he has? important as 5.0 engines have two filters and 4.2's have just one...so he really needs to add that so that accurate advice can be given.

My preferred choice would simply be to use aftermarket filters bought for a few ££'s and change them every 6k miles
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:51 PM
  #15  
kj07xk's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 5,308
Likes: 2,580
From: Naperville, Illinois USA
Default

Originally Posted by MarkyUK
What OP/Southerngearhead hasn't told us is which XKR he has? important as 5.0 engines have two filters and 4.2's have just one...
I think all XKR’s have two, its the XK that has only one, across all model years.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 10:38 PM
  #16  
Cambo's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 8,637
Likes: 4,521
From: Sydney, Australia
Default

Originally Posted by MarkyUK
What OP/Southerngearhead hasn't told us is which XKR he has? important as 5.0 engines have two filters and 4.2's have just one...so he really needs to add that so that accurate advice can be given.
facepalm.jpg

Is this another pearl of wisdom from your "Jag master" ???

4.2L X150 XKR has a dual intake.
4.2L X150 XK has a single intake.
5.0L X150 XKR has a dual intake.
5.0L X150 XK has a dual intake.






The stock 4.2L XKR intake with new paper filters is good for ~500hp, as demonstrated on my XKR.
The stock 5.0L XKR intake with new paper filters is good for >600hp, as demonstrated on u102768's XKR.

It's not the air filter panels which would be causing restrictions in these cars, unless they are very dirty...
 
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2019 | 07:09 AM
  #17  
Tervuren's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,181
Likes: 656
From: Carolinas
Default

The stock system is already a cold air snorkel intake.

Aside from body work changes and a ram air I'm not sure there's much room for improvement.

I bought a car once with a "cold air intake", they removed the factory Porsche snorkel intake, and put a cone air filter just off the throttle body - in the hot air of engine bay.

I think a lot of people do not know what a "cold air intake" is...
 
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2019 | 08:04 AM
  #18  
guy's Avatar
guy
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,667
Likes: 1,674
From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Default

And just to add an observation:

At my last visit to race the runway I noticed some cars essentially using women's nylons stretched over their cold intakes. All in hopes of bettering their times and speeds. I think it was capable of keeping out birds, gravel and insects.

Not too sure I would like this approach on my car for the long term.
 
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:49 AM
  #19  
jagtoes's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 5,209
Likes: 1,846
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by guy
And just to add an observation:

At my last visit to race the runway I noticed some cars essentially using women's nylons stretched over their cold intakes. All in hopes of bettering their times and speeds. I think it was capable of keeping out birds, gravel and insects.

Not too sure I would like this approach on my car for the long term.
There's a positive here as you can use this as an excuse if your wife finds them in the glove box. LOL
 
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2019 | 12:08 PM
  #20  
MarkyUK's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,628
Likes: 671
From: Somerset UK
Default

Originally Posted by Cambo
facepalm.jpg

Is this another pearl of wisdom from your "Jag master" ???
.
Sorry oh master of the universe!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:44 PM.