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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 04:02 PM
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I'm at about 50K on my 2010, and have seen no signs of failure yet.
Being variable valved, I doubt I could find a rebuild kit but someone here told me OEM were actually Bilsteins (double check that before taking as gospel). A call to to a Bilstein rep may gather more information.
I'd rather rebuild if the units are capable, and probably weld on a Schrader valve for a little more preload control.

Fortune is with me so far, mine are holding solid, despite my aggressive driving style.

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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 07:26 PM
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The shocks are manufactured by Bilstein for Jaguar as I understand. But do you really believe you can have them rebuilt for less than $87.50 per unit including shipping in both directions? That is the price being offered by British Parts Place on genuine Jaguar stamped shocks including the shipping. I would be highly surprised if that were the case.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tberg
The shocks are manufactured by Bilstein for Jaguar as I understand. But do you really believe you can have them rebuilt for less than $87.50 per unit including shipping in both directions? That is the price being offered by British Parts Place on genuine Jaguar stamped shocks including the shipping. I would be highly surprised if that were the case.
Sorry,
Not thinking about a basic replacement. More like how to customize / fine-tune the settings.
I'd get a schrader installed so I could control my own Nitrogen pre-load.
I've been pretty happy with the compression dampening on my 2010XKR, but would like to lower viscosity to soften the ride.
Not sure how the ECU would like me futzing with the calibrations though...
But if you cant rebuild them with new seals, the point is moot.

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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 01:58 AM
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I'm confused here,

Are the 2010 XK w/ Adaptive dynamics, the same shocks as on the 2010 XKR ?

I thought the XKR had a stiffer ride.

I want to install XKR shocks in my XK to stiffen up the ride.

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Old Mar 16, 2019 | 04:03 AM
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According to the parts manual the rears are the same and the fronts could be but it depends what colour yours are, green or purple. One of the options for the XKR are purple ones which is the same as some of the XK's it seems.

The springs are different though.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2020 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tberg
Here is what I purchased and is still available from the same vendor.
NEW C2P17670 C2P17674 CAR SET OF 4 Shocks 10-14 Jaguar XK CATS Electronic Susp | eBay
Hey tberg, this looks like a great link to purchase all 4 shocks. My only concern is if this will work on my 2007 Jaguar XK. I'm doing a lot of suspension parts replacing and am looking for the proper shocks. I saw another '07 XK owner say he got these same front shocks for his car and they worked fine. Everything I see says this is for the XKR. Any thoughts on this?
If it works, I'm going to buy that set from eBay and install them. Part numbers: C2P17670 (front?) and C2P17674 (rear?).
 
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Old Oct 17, 2020 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyodwyer
Hey tberg, this looks like a great link to purchase all 4 shocks. My only concern is if this will work on my 2007 Jaguar XK. I'm doing a lot of suspension parts replacing and am looking for the proper shocks. I saw another '07 XK owner say he got these same front shocks for his car and they worked fine. Everything I see says this is for the XKR. Any thoughts on this?
If it works, I'm going to buy that set from eBay and install them. Part numbers: C2P17670 (front?) and C2P17674 (rear?).
I put the fronts of those on my 2007 XK, but am not entirely happy with the choice, as these are for the 5.0 cars that use a variable damper. The 4.2 cars use an on/off damper, so the results are that (I think) these shocks stay in the firmest mode all the time. I thought they were spongier, but I now think they are harder than my old ones, giving more bounce to the front end. At some point I’ll find appropriate ones and swap these out.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
I put the fronts of those on my 2007 XK, but am not entirely happy with the choice, as these are for the 5.0 cars that use a variable damper. The 4.2 cars use an on/off damper, so the results are that (I think) these shocks stay in the firmest mode all the time. I thought they were spongier, but I now think they are harder than my old ones, giving more bounce to the front end. At some point I’ll find appropriate ones and swap these out.
Thanks for the quick reply kj07xk. I cancelled my order for the set of 4, hope they haven't already processed it. Do you know which shocks (part numbers) I need to buy to be compatible and similar to the Jaguar OEM parts? I can tell my car is equipped with ADC because there is a wire running into the top of the front shocks. Pretty sure thats the ADC wiring harness.

I see people on here talking about different colors on these shocks. I did notice that my front shocks have an Orange circle or dot on them about an inch in diameter . Anyone know what all these colors designate? Are these basically the same shocks but the color code identifies some slight variations between them? Maybe the connector for ther wiring harness at the top is different? One may be for the CATS and the other for the regular ADC (Adaptive Control Damping). Maybe that's why they're stiff on kj07xk, with the wrong shock in there maybe it's not working properly?

I don't know a lot about these cars and especially not the suspension systems but I have learned a lot in the past week trying to order up the right parts for this suspension rebuild. I gotta say there's been a lot of great info. I learned:
1. Some of the Jaguar parts can be bought from Ford at a fraction of the cost as from Jaguar. Some parts even come stamped with "Jaguar" on it. Trouble is sometimes it's hard to tell which Ford part will be an absolute match to the Jaguar part being replaced. Some parts have slight variations that won't transfer over. I think the 2006 Lincoln LS has many of the same suspension parts as my 2007 XK. And I think some of the Jaguar S-type parts are the same.
2. Don't try to get away with just changing out boots on this repair job. I thought that's the approach I would take. But, it can be a tricky job and my joints are probably too far gone now. I've got 77,000 miles on my Jag and I've heard these boots are not built to last.
3. Didn't just fall off the turnip truck and learn this one today but....man, the Jaguar dealerships have jacked up, crazy prices right? Alternate sources provided in this forum are great! I do appreciate the Jaguar dealers that have an online parts catalog where you can at least look up the parts you need and it will confirm if they fit your model.
3. Rock Auto is a great source for parts.
4.Autozone will rent you (for free) speciality tools like the brake caliper tool and the strut spring compressor tool.


Oh well, back to the task at hand which is painting my calipers red and finding some new after market wheels. Didn't realize I needed all this suspension work until I took off the wheels and noticed I needed new brake pads and needed to turn the rotors. Most of the rubber boots and bushings were disintegrating. I bought tie rod links, tie rod ends, UCAs, stabilizer bars etc. Will get to work on it in about a week when all the parts arrive. Last purcahse is probably going to be the shocks all around. Hey btw, I wasn't thinking about replacing springs or the shock mount but we'll take a look and reconsider when that stuff comes off.

UPDATE: I think these are the part numbers for the front and rear shocks (with ADC)

Front: Jaguar Part # C2P3132 (Jag price $544 ea.) - Billstein Part # 20114411 (out of stock most places I looked but they're priced at around $323 ea.)
Rear: Jaguar Part # C2P11466 (Jag price $533 ea.) - Billstein Part # 20114428 (Rock Auto price $240 ea,)

None of this pricing is as good as that $349 deal for shocks all around as posted earlier in the thread. But this does appear to be a different part and those other ones are for the 2010 XKR and later.




 

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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 02:24 PM
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Hello,

I'm also with the strut dillema, I have a 2010 and the existing struts are orange and white.
Do you know if the green and white ones sold by britishpartsplace will work?

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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyodwyer
1. Some of the Jaguar parts can be bought from Ford at a fraction of the cost as from Jaguar. Some parts even come stamped with "Jaguar" on it. Trouble is sometimes it's hard to tell which Ford part will be an absolute match to the Jaguar part being replaced. Some parts have slight variations that won't transfer over. I think the 2006 Lincoln LS has many of the same suspension parts as my 2007 XK. And I think some of the Jaguar S-type parts are the same.
none of the lincoln ls parts are cheaper or worth buying

go look up used xf and xj parts on ebay and you’ll see what crosses over.


 

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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tarokyama
Hello,

I'm also with the strut dillema, I have a 2010 and the existing struts are orange and white.
Do you know if the green and white ones sold by britishpartsplace will work?

thanks
Front or rear?
I know the front ones I just took out of my 2007 XK were originally intended for a 2010-2011 XK, but I’ll check when I get home next week to see what color the dots are.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 09:45 AM
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if you have a 2010 and up you can buy all 4 for less than 400 bucks

it you try to put it in a 4.2 it will be stiff all the time
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
none of the lincoln ls parts are cheaper or worth buying

go look up used xf and xj parts on ebay and you’ll see what crosses over.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "no-one of the Lincoln ls parts are cheaper or worth buying". I guarantee you, they are cheaper and they are worth buying. I bought my upper control arms from Rock Auto. Went to the local Ford dealership and Jaguar dealership and bought them to make sure they were identical (later returned). They were the same parts and they were stamped with Jaguar on the UCAs. Now some of the lower control arms didn't seem to be an identical match, can't remember which ones though.

I had priced out all the parts I needed for the suspension job from South Carolina Jaguar and it came out to nearly $9,000. I'm attaching that quote here. By going to Rock Auto and the Ford dealership, I probably saved at least $6,000 for (mostly) identical parts. Not sure on some of the few Beck/Arnley tie rods and such I bought. Not sure on the quality of those clearly after-market fabrications and not oem. But many of the control arms and shocks are the same parts the dealer uses. Shocks alone on Rock Auto were well worth the discounted price of about $240 vs. $700 + from Jaguar. These are the same shocks made by Bilstein in Southern California.

Here was the pricing on just one of the UCAs (part # MCS0E38 or C2P25603)
Rock Auto - $158
Ford Dealer - $275
Jaguar Dealer Los Angeles - $900
Jaguar Dealer South Carolina (online) - $534

I highly recommend using places other than the *********** to source certain replacement parts. Just my 2 cents. And thanks to a previous forum user who pointed me in this direction with a post about suspension parts and how the XK are known to have suspension issues requiring boot and seal replacement or actual full part replacement. Sometimes replacing the entire part is less labor intensive and cheaper than repairing certain boots/seals. At least for me, who's not exactly a great mechanic. Ha, not even close, wouldn't even call myself a mechanic ever, lol.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyodwyer
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "no-one of the Lincoln ls parts are cheaper or worth buying". I guarantee you, they are cheaper and they are worth buying. I bought my upper control arms from Rock Auto. Went to the local Ford dealership and Jaguar dealership and bought them to make sure they were identical (later returned). They were the same parts and they were stamped with Jaguar on the UCAs. Now some of the lower control arms didn't seem to be an identical match, can't remember which ones though.

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you could’ve bought the original front uppers with free shipping lifetime warranty, i've already abused it to rebuild the suspension on 3 different cars. the motorcraft front uppers are built with the current casting but have a different ball joint that uses an e-hex head instead of torx, they stopped using that when the s-type came out of production.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...l-arm-xr857652

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...pe-xf-xr857653
 

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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Slight thread resurrection here but just wondering how those who purchased the $350 shocks from British Parts on eBay who had installed to 5.0 XKR's were getting on?

My 2010MY XKR requires new shocks and they look a very tempting option but I keep finding contradicting information as to whether or not the Green marked shocks are the correct ones for my car or whether I require Purple. Equally, id be interested to hear if anyone is able to shed any light on to what the difference is between the Green & Purple marked shocks.

Cheers,

Russ
 
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