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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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20 grades are used in the 133 for fuel economy reasons. extremely important for any major manufacturer
 

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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardS
From the XK handbook for my car:

Engine oil temperature ranges
For climates ranging from -35°C to +50°C (-31°F to +122°F), the following oil viscosities may be used:
0W-30 protects from -35°C to +35°C (-31°F to +95°F).
5W-30 (preferred) protects from -30°C to +35°C (-22°F to +95°F).
0W-40 protects from -35°C to +50°C (-31°F to +122°F).
5W-40 protects from -30°C to +50°C (-22°F to +122°F).

Within the typical temperature range of most of the inhabited world, you can use 0W or 5W and 30 or 40 in whatever combination you like so no need to sweat it. 😉

Richard
Thanks, Richard. I plead guilty to failure to RTFM. I take away that I should go to the 30 or 40 weight variants here in FL. I had defaulted to 0-20 from 5-30, but see that I should return before summer hits. Panthera
 

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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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@panthera999 fwiw Jaguar updated their oil specs and have since departed from the owners manual in 2018. @GGG posted the notice under the DIY sticky, sub heading>Engines.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
20 grades are used in the 133 for fuel economy reasons. extremely important for any major manufacturer
Indeed so. I'll stick with 30 grade as I prefer to err on the side of engine longevity.

Richard
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
@panthera999 fwiw Jaguar updated their oil specs and have since departed from the owners manual in 2018. @GGG posted the notice under the DIY sticky, sub heading>Engines.
That notice specifically references the AJ133 engine a.k.a 5.0l. @panthera999 and I (and apparently yourself) have the AJ33 engine a.k.a. 4.2l. If you are feeding your 4.2 a 20wt oil you are doing it a mechanical disservice.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ram_g
That notice specifically references the AJ133 engine a.k.a 5.0l. @panthera999 and I (and apparently yourself) have the AJ33 engine a.k.a. 4.2l. If you are feeding your 4.2 a 20wt oil you are doing it a mechanical disservice.
the 3.9 had 5w20 since day one and next to nobody loses engines to lubrication problems

european 5w30s and everybody else’s ilsac 5w30s are on completely different planets in terms of viscosity but with real world drivers it makes no difference.

i use mobil 1 0w40 or the even cheaper quaker state 5w40 not because of film thickness but because i can drain at 13k+. the math never adds up when you use anything else
 

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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
… next to nobody loses engines to lubrication problems …
Indeed if you change your oil and filter regularly this is a general truism. Oil just seems to spark combative threads, lol.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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Meh. Good oil is good oil.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2023 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ram_g
At the risk of being flamed by the faithful, I just installed Shell Rotella T 5W40 in my 2008 XKR, for use in Houston where it is also hot most of the time. Yes, Rotella is branded as a diesel oil. No, it doesn't say it meets Jaguar specifications. In a few months time I'll let you know if my engine has grenaded or continues to purr along. I suspect it'll be the latter (or if not, it probably won't be due to the Rotella). As with all oil threads, YMMV.

BTW, for full disclosure, I work for Shell. But not in the lubricants business, so don't ask me about the ingredients in Rotella, I would have no idea.
I also have been using Shell Rotella in the Full Syn T6 5w-30 flavor. Around 40k miles, no issues thus far, well there was that one thing today....

That and Wix filters.

....also replaced the K&N air filters that were in it with OE style Wix
 
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Old Jan 6, 2023 | 03:26 AM
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To make it clear in the manual, It should state cold start engine oil temperature range. At operating temperatures the engine oil should be between 80-110DegC.

Originally Posted by RichardS
From the XK handbook for my car:

Engine oil temperature ranges
For climates ranging from -35°C to +50°C (-31°F to +122°F), the following oil viscosities may be used:
0W-30 protects from -35°C to +35°C (-31°F to +95°F).
5W-30 (preferred) protects from -30°C to +35°C (-22°F to +95°F).
0W-40 protects from -35°C to +50°C (-31°F to +122°F).
5W-40 protects from -30°C to +50°C (-22°F to +122°F).

Within the typical temperature range of most of the inhabited world, you can use 0W or 5W and 30 or 40 in whatever combination you like so no need to sweat it. 😉

Richard
 
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Old Jan 6, 2023 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by XKRAU
To make it clear in the manual, It should state cold start engine oil temperature range. At operating temperatures the engine oil should be between 80-110DegC.
I'm not sure what you mean? AFAIK no manufacturer states the actual oil operating temperature as an oil selection parameter. They only ever refer to the ambient temperature range.

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Old Jan 6, 2023 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ram_g
That notice specifically references the AJ133 engine a.k.a 5.0l. @panthera999 and I (and apparently yourself) have the AJ33 engine a.k.a. 4.2l. If you are feeding your 4.2 a 20wt oil you are doing it a mechanical disservice.
LOL well that's embarrassing and thx @ram_g. I recall reading GGG's reference to the JLR notice in another oil thread some time ago and was looking into back then also, then saw it didn't apply to the A33 and forgot about it entirely since. I use Castrol 5w 30 or Pennzoil 5w 30 and I only put about 3000 on my car a year, flush the engine in the fall and change the oil so I'm good.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2025 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Just keep it British with Castrol; for Queen and Country.

Long live The Smiths and Morrissey!!!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2025 | 07:04 AM
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Santa Clause, I wish I had an oil pressure gauge on my 4.2L.
I wish I can find a 1/4" tap into the oil channels on my 4.2l, then I could attach a gauge.
When will OBD2 ports show oil pressure readings?
Well I now have Kms/hour, alternator voltage and coolant temp. Can't have everything I guess!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2025 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sony2000
Santa Clause, I wish I had an oil pressure gauge on my 4.2L.
I wish I can find a 1/4" tap into the oil channels on my 4.2l, then I could attach a gauge.
When will OBD2 ports show oil pressure readings?
Well I now have Kms/hour, alternator voltage and coolant temp. Can't have everything I guess!
OBD ports can show oil pressure but only on cars which are fitted with a oil pressure sensor which can send graduated live data to the bus. The 4.2 pressure sensor can only read two data states.
The oil channel tap on your 4.2 is where the oil pressure sensor is currently fitted. It might well be 1/4 BSPP or BSPT but you can check this online. I've fitted several cars with a T-piece which enables fitment of both the original sensor and the graduated sensor. Usually a 10 minute job depending upon how accessible the sensor is.

Richard
 
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