PSA: Replace your 2 piece lug nuts
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PSA: Replace your 2 piece lug nuts
Hi All, Just a public service announcement. This is the second time I have run into trouble with the stock 2 piece lug nuts on my Jag. I swapped out my front brake pads to ceramic this weekend and as luck would have it 4 out of 5 lug nuts on one wheel came off with a breaker bar and 19mm impact socket.The last one popped the cap right off the nut. What followed was an afternoon of part/tool store runs. I finally got it off but this 2 piece lug design is just not a good one. I do have other cars and swapped them out. So I did the same on the Jag.
I was lucky and happy this was part of a planned maintenance. So a work of advice, before getting stuck with a flat and no easy way to get a lug with a popped cap off, swap out your 2 piece lug nuts for one piece lugs.
I was lucky and happy this was part of a planned maintenance. So a work of advice, before getting stuck with a flat and no easy way to get a lug with a popped cap off, swap out your 2 piece lug nuts for one piece lugs.
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Yup. First thing I did on mine. Not by choice or previous knowledge though. Bought car, tire went flat 1 week later in garage. Found nail. Attempted to remove wheel. last lug nut stripped. Noticed the shitty cap. Ripped cap off and removed last lug. Went on forum and found the solution: replace all lugs. Bought Toyota lugs and new lug nut wrench and socket. Slept well since
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Gorilla makes a set specific for Jaguars: 73138J for chrome and 73138JBC for black chrome.
The difference between the lug nuts for Toyota and Jaguar is the length of the shank. On Toyota/Lexus lug nuts the shank is .550" inches and on the Jaguar it's .500"
While .05" doesn't seem like a lot, it's a problem if the nut bottoms out on the hub.
The difference between the lug nuts for Toyota and Jaguar is the length of the shank. On Toyota/Lexus lug nuts the shank is .550" inches and on the Jaguar it's .500"
While .05" doesn't seem like a lot, it's a problem if the nut bottoms out on the hub.
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Gorilla makes a set specific for Jaguars: 73138J for chrome and 73138JBC for black chrome.
The difference between the lug nuts for Toyota and Jaguar is the length of the shank. On Toyota/Lexus lug nuts the shank is .550" inches and on the Jaguar it's .500"
While .05" doesn't seem like a lot, it's a problem if the nut bottoms out on the hub.
The difference between the lug nuts for Toyota and Jaguar is the length of the shank. On Toyota/Lexus lug nuts the shank is .550" inches and on the Jaguar it's .500"
While .05" doesn't seem like a lot, it's a problem if the nut bottoms out on the hub.
The Toyota lugs I linked in that thread worked for me on my stock Caravela wheels.
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Does anyone have experience with the lug nuts from West Coast Accessories? On EBay they are solid, still only 3/4 inch (maybe 19mm) and about half the price of Gorilla.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-20-12mm...pe!28734!US!-1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-20-12mm...pe!28734!US!-1
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For those of us that purchased cars previously owned by others with no control over who or what tool was used on the lug nuts, I think these are reasonable alternatives. The link is in my previous pose, they are solid and I like them better than the Toyota/Lexus ones as they are 19mm so no need for a 11/16 socket AND the price isn't bad.
Sorry for the size of the picture, I should have reduced it before uploading.
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Those look like the junk Dorman's from the auto parts place "help" rack but are priced less so I'm going with Chinese knock off's. Wonder how long the chrome will stick around?
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This is why Jaguar has a good solution, they are not completely stupid, they too can buy Chinese junk, but used expensive hardened steel (which cant be chrome plated, or plated period due to hardness) and cover it with a soft metal.
Most folks in USA dont realize that you can shape the outer cover by using the correct socket and hammering it.
Also buy one of these and keep the 19mm socket in your glovebox. For one it will prevent wheel from being scratched up, but its a polite way of making sure the pimple faced dummy at the tire shop knows what socket size to use.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3Pc-Thin-Wa...cAAOSwa1ZcUL-1
Last edited by Queen and Country; 07-08-2019 at 12:00 PM.
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And yes, buy the correct socket and I also bought a telescopic socket wrench. That stock wrench is also quite weak IMO.
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Depends on the damage. I was able to get 4 off by hammering on the right socket size. The other was too mangled and the lug was too tight so I had to ruin it to get it off. Either way, good design or bad, the last thing I want to find out on the side of the highway is the lug caps are loose. So off they came!
And yes, buy the correct socket and I also bought a telescopic socket wrench. That stock wrench is also quite weak IMO.
And yes, buy the correct socket and I also bought a telescopic socket wrench. That stock wrench is also quite weak IMO.
Good idea on the telescoping wrench, I may just carry a breaker bar, you cant strip the teeth on a toothless creature. Been meaning to start a thread about emergency tool bag items all XK owners should carry, especially the grand tourers; like cling wrap, the right size allen wrench, spare battery for remote. (and of course your Gin Richard)
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Good idea on the telescoping wrench, I may just carry a breaker bar, you cant strip the teeth on a toothless creature. Been meaning to start a thread about emergency tool bag items all XK owners should carry, especially the grand tourers; like cling wrap, the right size allen wrench, spare battery for remote. (and of course your Gin Richard)
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