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Old Oct 28, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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Got the battery not charging signal, determined alternator has failed. Now in process of removing and want to remove wiring bundle going to back of alternator with plastic plug, but can't pull plug out of alternator. Do I just pull it out? Can't see any plastic restraints I need to collapse or compress as I pull! So what is the trick to get that plug and wires out of the back of the alternator without destroying anything. Help!⁷
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 07:55 AM
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Wes, I'm kind of surprised that you haven't received an answer to your question from this forum. The collective wisdom about XKs here is phenomenal.

I am certainly not the one to help you with this, given that (1) my XK is still pretty new to me and (2) I have never removed and alternator from this (or any) car. But FWIW I did look at images of the alternator online and it seems that the connector should pull out straight with no damage. Again, I am hardly a reliable source for this advice, but that's what it looks like to me.

Have you already separated the cable from the alternator? If so, let us know how it went.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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I can't see why it WOULDN'T be detachable. Inspect it for anything like a tab or slot that would be moveable or compressible.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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Can't see any plastic restraints I need to collapse or compress as I pull!
He indicated he couldn't find any tabs to compress.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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That's what I get for skimming and not reading the post.

Oh, hell, just yank on it but stop when you feel crunches or stuff breaking.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 03:39 AM
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I'm pretty sure there are tabs holding it, just need to find how! Have you checked the workshop manual?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 09:31 AM
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nothing in the workshop manual that describes it. It just reads, remove the electrical connections and the pic tells me it's tabbed but not clear enough to discern what type. Someone with a TOPIX subscription might be able to capture a better pic as TOPIX has some more detail than the service manual.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Do you have a a endoscope camera, that can maybe show you the tab? They are not that expensive. :-)
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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okay, so the alternator has failed. have you purchased the replacement alternator already? what does it look like?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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Got the battery not charging signal, determined alternator has failed. Now in process of removing and want to remove wiring bundle going to back of alternator with plastic plug, but can't pull plug out of alternator. Do I just pull it out? Can't see any plastic restraints I need to collapse or compress as I pull! So what is the trick to get that plug and wires out of the back of the alternator without destroying anything. Help!⁷

just wanted anyone following this to know that I was successful in removing the alt plug. My issue was that I felt it would be better to remove plug before removing alt and trying to get plug out while being held only by wiring harness. Ended up fabricating tool made from 3/32" thick X 1" wide strap steel. Made slot in end of strap exact width of plastic plug and added a 1" wide piece of 7/16" bar stock tack welded to under side of strap to function as fulcrum or pivot point. Slot width was slight press fit on plastic plug and positioned directly under cast in prongs on the plug. It required some force to lever the plug straight up and out of the female portion of the plug residing in the back of the alt, but it popped out. Turns out there is a compressible retention strap on the male part of the plug that snaps over a index tab down in the side of the female part of the plug and that part got broken off during removal. That was not a problem because the broken part stayed with the alt which I was replacing. In my opinion the tool was the easy answer because due to very tight tolerances of the two plug halves, it was impossible to depress the retaining clip and pull with great force at the same time while only being able to use one hand reaching up to the alt from below. My tool worked for me and the project is complete and all is running well. I have no idea if Snap-on or any other tool mfg makes a plug removal tool.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gjjaguar
just wanted anyone following this to know that I was successful in removing the alt plug. My issue was that I felt it would be better to remove plug before removing alt and trying to get plug out while being held only by wiring harness. Ended up fabricating tool made from 3/32" thick X 1" wide strap steel. Made slot in end of strap exact width of plastic plug and added a 1" wide piece of 7/16" bar stock tack welded to under side of strap to function as fulcrum or pivot point. Slot width was slight press fit on plastic plug and positioned directly under cast in prongs on the plug. It required some force to lever the plug straight up and out of the female portion of the plug residing in the back of the alt, but it popped out. Turns out there is a compressible retention strap on the male part of the plug that snaps over a index tab down in the side of the female part of the plug and that part got broken off during removal. That was not a problem because the broken part stayed with the alt which I was replacing. In my opinion the tool was the easy answer because due to very tight tolerances of the two plug halves, it was impossible to depress the retaining clip and pull with great force at the same time while only being able to use one hand reaching up to the alt from below. My tool worked for me and the project is complete and all is running well. I have no idea if Snap-on or any other tool mfg makes a plug removal tool.
Pics of the tool would be great! :-)
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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i'd still like to see the plug itself as well, this is interesting. very resourceful work!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 09:22 PM
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I found this, but can't really tell much. Looks maybe like a friction-fit.



 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Cee Jay pic is very helpful ....maybe a small jewelers screw driver inserted at the locking tit location, Might be enough to not damage anything.
lube connector with dielectric grease upon reassembly ... next guy won't have to work so hard... just a thought.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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possibly related .. the plug on my 1997 xk8 alternator turned to dust when I tried to pull it out.
anyone know for certain which is which?

the two wires going into the 3 wire plug 1997 xk8
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiBump
possibly related .. the plug on my 1997 xk8 alternator turned to dust when I tried to pull it out.
anyone know for certain which is which?

the two wires going into the 3 wire plug 1997 xk8
You'll have much better luck in the X100 forum. This is the X150 forum for the newer 2007-2015 models.
Don't worry about it, this happens all the time.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 11:04 PM
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X150 uses a single wire alt plug,

there is a tab that pushes in on one side
but it can get really melted on there by almost the heat
I used lubrication and needle nose plier to pull it.

you are correct to remove that before dropping the alternator.
 
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