Dear Ted,

You must be sick to the back teeth by now of people asking for samples. I'm also new to the site and am keen to replace my headliner (I had it done a few years back by a pro, and don't like the match). Now my A & C pillars need recovering, and I wondered if I could trouble you to see if I could meet up with you to have a look at the sample for the Oyster Passion Suede? I'm not far from you in Valencia. My car is off the road at present until next week sometime when I get two new Senta wheels, but when that's done, I'd love to meet.

BTW, I love the Panthera, nice work. A friend of mine is currently renovating one in Long Island NY, and he'll wet himself when I show him that picture you posted. Exact same colour.

Sincerely,

Justin

 

Good morning, Ted. I’ve got an 07 XK convertible, and I am about to replace exterior top convertible due to the glass separating. The folks that I have lined up to do it can do the headliner as well. What an how much fabric what I need to match the Lunar Grey/IvorySlate combo that I have?

 

I am not as familiar with the convertible as the coupe, however, it seems to cover about the same territory, so I would guess somewhere between 3-4 yards of fabric. The suede to which I have access is 60" wide and costs me $5.10/yd. I give it to forum members at my cost. In other words you need between $15-$20's worth of fabric. However, is not the convertible liner, lined with a layer of padding or foam rubber for insulation purposes? The Passion Suede that I get is unlined, so you would have to get the insulating material sewn to the suede before installation. I also don't know what the color of your interior lining is compared to the colors I have. There are two greys, one almost charcoal and one very, very light. There are a number of ivory/light beige colors. Post a picture, and send me your address, and I can send you some samples of the closest colors.

 

Hey tberg, i have a 2011 base XK

headliner that failed (dark grey) and i'm getting ready to do the job. Can you send me a pm with details on getting new fabric? I think you mentioned the foam padding needs to be sewn to the fabric?

 

SeanU,
You don't want any foam whatsoever! The deterioration of the foam to powder is what causes the headliner to pull away. It's not the adhesive, it's that there is nothing left for the adhesive to hold on to. I will go ahead and send you a PM with my direct contact information. The suede cloth to which I have access Passion Suede, is thick enough to glue directly to the roof without the foam. It is a woven micro fibre suede as opposed to the very thin knitted Alcantara or Alston suede that was originally used. I'm assuming you have the Warm Charcoal interior which is nearly black. The Passion suede has a dark grey that is not as dark as the warm charcoal which is like a light black, and there is a black Passion Suede which is a bit darker than the warm charcoal. If you're going to be recovering the A pillars and the area back of the seats, it won't matter because there will be nothing to match since all will be redone. Several forum members have used the black and have had very good results. The fabric itself, is 60" wide and the last time I bought it about a month ago, I was paying $5.10/running yard X60" width. About 4 yards should cover the roof, the A pillars, and the little pieces in the rear, so about $20's worth of materials. PM coming momentarily.

 

SeanU,
I tried PM to you but it said it could not be sent (No such address) Why don't you send me a PM, and I'll respond.
Thanks,
Ted

 

Thanks Ted... not sure why the message didn't come through. I sent a PM with details, let me know if it does not come through!

 

I made a vain attempt at gluing my headliner back up. It was pretty easy to get the headliner out. It was pretty easy to peel off fabric. It took a little work to remove the old foam. When gluing the material back on I failed to realize that the material was going to have to be stretched out somewhat so that it wouldn't come up short. So, I came up short in the replace the headliner game. So, I'm looking to be saved by Ted Berg. The car is a 2007 XK which is supposed to be the single year that material called Canvas Morzine Cloth was used. According to a former posting, it is NOT the suede fabric, it's a velour/felt fabric, Canvas is the name of the colour. I'll be glad to send a piece of my fabric for comparison.

 

Some members to whom I've sent color Oyster have reported back to me that the color is very close to the Canvas. PM me your address and I'll pop a large sample of the Oyster Passion Suede in the mail. Then you can hold them next to each other. And since they'll be different textures, if they're slightly different, it won't matter as much.
Ted

 

Dear Ted, I’m not sure how old this thread is but I would love to purchase some headliner passion suede for my 2011 Jaguar XK coupe.. I’m looking for EBONY as that is the trim color for my car…

 

I have been putting the job off for a bit, but here is what I have found as an alternative...
This company : https://www.fabricempire.com has a fabric called "Synergy II Suede". I ordered the full swatch set from them and I have settled on the color called "Jet Black"
https://www.fabricempire.com/jet-bla...-the-yard.aspx

I was originally going to choose the lighter "charcoal", but when I asked my wife to choose, she said it was too light, and to get the Jet Black (Alston Jet was mentioned above for our color). I trust her judgement and will be going with the Jet.
They sell the fabric with or without foam backing... I am going for the foam backed. If you would like, i can try to show the samples next to my fabric, but it might not come through well.
I suggest ordering these 2 swatches to decide for yourself if you want to go this route.
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....harcoal+swatch
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....t+black+swatch

If others want an alternative / foam backed fabric you can order the full swatch set : https://www.fabricempire.com/synergy...catalogue.aspx

I have not ordered the fabric yet, but I will be posting here with photos when done. I am going with 4 yards x60" based on earlier posts in this thread.
- Sean

 

The pillars suede can be re-attached with 3M headliner glue, not that difficult.

 

@SeanU That's the material I just used to refinish my headliner. It's a bit darker than the original Alston but can't really tell against the pillars and visors unless you know or look for it.

 

That's what I did. The OEM pillar foam backing's quite thinner than the headliner backing so it was best to use fresh adhesive along the edges and re-stretch. Came out fine.

 

Yep, they need one more shade of Gray in between the charcoal and jet black.

 

Hey Headliner Folks! I got my headliner out today and cleaned off the old foam. In the process, i managed to break 3 out of the 4 plastic clips on the passenger side A pillar trim piece. I can jb weld the parts back together, but for the life of me, I can't get the trim off... it seems stuck down at the dash level. Any tips on how to get it out to make the repair easier? The driver side came out fine... no clips broken, and easy to remove.

 

Thanks for all of the earlier posts.
Fabric used : 1/8 Foam Backed Jet Black Synergy Faux Suede Headliner Fabric 60" Wide 4 yards from Fabric Empire Cost : $79
3m Headliner glue... I used about 1/2 of a can for the headliner. 1 can would cover a headliner and all of the trim if needed.

Notes from install :

• As noted in previous post, i broke 3 plastic clips on passenger a-pillar trim which i still need to repair. Everything else came out ok... harder to remove than expected. The rear trim is left hanging and does not need to be fully removed
• I used a plastic spackle/putty applicator from homedepot to scrape the bulk of the foam and glue off. The remaining glue layer is very tough, and took over an hour to remove. I tried wire brushes, sandpaper etc. I found duct tape looped around my fingers very helpful for cleaning the hard stuff up... it picks up all of the "glue *****".
• I thought i would have more time to work with the fabric and glue, but the 3m glue sets very fast. I worked with the fabric folded back 1/2 way, doing the rear portion first.
• The front portion has the trickiest part to get right... the overhead console "bump". My advice is work the fabric from the middle forward to where the hump starts, and when you get to the hump, work from the hump outward to the side edges. In my haste, i didn't work that area fast enough, and the fabric is slightly lifted where the base starts to curve up.
• I used an x-acto knife to trim the outside edges... scissors won't get completely to the edge.
• I only folded the fabric over the windshield front edge area... which is how the oem fabric was glued. Everywhere else is trimmed to the board edge as closely as possible.

I'll post some pictures after i get it back in.


Headliner Removed

Before foam removal

Fabric layout

Finished!

 

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Hi Tberg. I am another California Jag owner with a sagging headliner on a 2010 XK. Please let me know if you still have a source for replacement suede and I will send you a photo of the color of mine if you provide me contact info. I am in Rancho Mirage and have 2 Jags, both 2010's - an XJ sedan and the XK. Both have the same color headliner, kind of a greyish tan. Thanks. Craig

 

update on this. I am told that my suede color is called Canvas, by Alston which is no longer available.