The key blade will only open the doors. You still need the fob to start the car (docked, if the fob isn’t recognized while undocked). Don’t think the key blade will cause an alarm.

 

Interesting! Do you know whether these have the leaper logo on the back? They only have one picture and that is of the front. If so, I will probably get these and move the electronics from my knock-offs into OE-looking cases.

The chrome ring is missing altogether, but the real issue is that the plastic tab that holds the key in is also missing.

 

Dan,

All I know is what I previously explained in my Post #19, above.

That eBay seller says it's a genuine Jaguar shell. It's only $15.90 including shipping, and it's covered by eBay's guarantee. Buy it. You have nothing to lose. Just be careful swapping the electronics board. Or pay a locksmith to do it.

Also buy a cheap Chinese clone for the chrome retaining rings and hope they fit. Most likely they will.

Good luck!

Stuart

 

I went ahead and ordered a couple. We'll see how it goes.

You could probably even put your electronics into a new-style key fob if you were so inclined.

 

Not sure if you've tried your keys in the docking station yet (start control Unit) but its possible to clone keys (cheap & dirty programming) that do not program the active part of the security system. This can leave you stranded unable to start your car and its not just a scenario of a low fob battery. That's why I suggested you check and have some recourse if they are not fully programmed. Read the attached to learn about passive and active starting & security.

 

Nope, it won't fit in the dock.

 

I think the jury is out on the supposition that they are "not exactly the same size as the OEM Smartkey shell (with the Leaper logo on the back) and might not fit properly in the dock" That post shows multiple instances how contributors did not know how to use the start control unit (dock) and their observed failures where normal functioning. Jaguar specifically cautions:

CAUTION:
Do not use force to remove the Jaguar Smart-
Key as this may cause damage to the start control
unit.
Do not attempt to hold an invalid key in the
start control unit in an attempt to prevent it
from being ejected.

I would agree that if buying non OEM keys/shells have recourse to return them if they wont program or chrome side pieces wont fit.

 

How would you become stranded? If I had to use my key to enter because the fob was dead, I see that. If I had a fresh battery in the glove compartment, could I then use the fob to start the car?

 

Let's hope that you never have to find out.

 

Your car like mine is 15 years old and is heavily controlled by electronic modules. If you read the pdf you'll understand how passive communication is different to active and importantly starting is different to ulocking. See pdf page 20 and you'll see which modules allow passive start vs active start. Modules are generally reliable but read the forum and you'll find instances of module problems and Jaguar have importantly given owners alternate means of starting the car, not by accident.

The information provided is intended to help & educate. Its your car so you choose how to understand and operate it.

 

[QUOTE=Stuart S;2835223]
"...programming the X150 Smart key to work remotely and programming it to work with the dock are two different procedures."

Programming it to work in the dock is an extra step in the SDD procedure, as you said. After you've done the programming, SDD wants you to do the next step, "validate key(s)". After which point you're done.
I had success cloning (2) extra keys using SDD installed on a laptop I bought from an Ebayer in the U/K. Figured it was cheaper than paying a dealer, and I have the SDD and computer to do other tasks on the car.

It is indeed a breathtaking procedure; follow on-screen instructions to the letter and you'll succeed.

The " blanks" don't have the logo / leaper on the back - meh, fob lives in a protective leather covering anyway, bought from Ebay.

 

[QUOTE=Tracee;2835820]I am expecting my SDD set up today, also purchased from an eBayer in the UK. Is key programming something that is just obvious when you fire up SDD or is there a significant learning curve? Did you write custom code or is it a function of SDD?

I posted yesterday that my only OE fob stopped working for starting the car after I changed the battery. Works to lock/unlock or release the trunk, but not for starting the car. Hopefully I can get it working again once I get SDD.

 

[QUOTE=powelld91;2838445]Oh, there's a learning curve for sure. It's not an obvious system by any means. One thing though, FOLLOW WHAT IT SAYS TO DO once you start something; tick this, push that, off, on, all of it or something may go horribly bad very quickly.

 

Been about a year since I used SDD to make copies of fob, but as I recall, once you get into SDD,, you click on "Security" and scroll down to "Add extra keys", and follow the prompts. Also, my unit came with the advisory to reload SDD every (90) days. Yours may or may not have that instruction; guessing it was part of a licensing scheme that the dealer had to renew.

 

When you ran this SDD routine, did the new key work in the dock as well or is that a separate routine?

 

From my extensive reading on the SDD / key procedure, I learned that, after you complete the "add additional keys" procedure, you go to another step, "Validate (verify?) keys", just a few steps down on the
"Security" section. This would complete the entire operation and assure the fob will work in its slot, when needed.

 

Cool. I have one OE key I received with the car that will verify but for some reason, the car decided it can't remote lock/unlock nor button start the car any longer. It will still work in the dock, though. I had an auto locksmith program a key also, that worked for remote lock/unlock and button starting, but not in the dock. One day, the car decided that key should no longer work, either. I am still trying to figure out how to stop the car from forgetting keys.

 

Just bought a 2011 XK that came with only one fob and live in Clear Lake. Could you tell me where you had your keys cut and how the new fobs and SDD programming went? I'm on the same path it sounds like.

 

I actually both my fobs 2 new ones complete off ebay and can confirm they work. I did the coding myself using JLR SDD. I had metal keys so did not need them cut I think a decent key place can cut them if you have an original key.

 

That's great!!

Seems to be the exception rather than the rule..

Glad it worked out..

for me it didn't after 2 sets of keys...

went to dealer...