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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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I was doing some cleaning in the trunk and estimate the spare tire and tools weigh around 60-75lbs using my 50lb daughter as reference. Yey or Ne for those who keep it in. I have AAA towing service so that's a plus. Also looks like a great hidden spot for a bottle of nitrous??? So who sheds the weight?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 03:00 PM
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I'm not gonna get rid of mine, just in case. Besides, most tire problems I've had in my life wouldn't be helped by any spray can of anything. Plus towing takes way too long. The extra weight is nothing compared to the 4000 pounds of 'car'. If you're worried about an extra 50 pounds, just half-full the fuel tank.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 03:43 PM
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I'm the opposite. My 2009 XKR Portfolio with Alcon brakes came from the factory without a spare tire. Jaguar didn't have a spare wheel that would fit, so it came with a 12V inflator and a can of sealant.

I never felt comfortable without a spare and, thanks to tech Brutal, he told me that the new XJ compact spare would fit but I'd need a spacer for the rears. I had a spacer made and sourced a complete kit on Ebay and no longer worry about getting a flat.

For details, see:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-brakes-67260/
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:19 PM
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I have used my spare one time in 4 years. Pulling into a gas station at my usual brisk hard cornering, just as I made the turn and was punching the brakes BAM, hit a giant pothole in the entrance. Complete and instant tire rupture. So I pulled into a spot and on goes the spare, 20 minutes later back home. I have AAA also but why wait an hour or more, plus the 30 minutes to load it up, 30 minutes to deposit it, etc.

So I vote for the spare.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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I take it out when I go drag racing but otherwise it is in the car.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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Wow, I thought it would be more of a split. Just goes to show the age difference between this forum and a honda civic forum. Also glad to see people here don't need the space for a dead body...
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 05:19 PM
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I ran 17 years in a BMW Z4 that had no spare, because mine ran with Run Flat tires, put 77K on the can and never had any tire problems.
My 2010 XK has a spare, but from the looks of it, it's never been removed from the trunk. I think this is a good omen. I think I'll leave it there.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 05:40 PM
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hmmm... a bunch of sensible people here. So far we have mostly left it in, one went out of my way to put it in (thats what she said), and one ran $300 a piece tires. I thought about the run flats idea, but sadly my pockets aren't deep enough. Half a tank of gas it is.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tampamark
I have used my spare one time in 4 years. Pulling into a gas station at my usual brisk hard cornering, just as I made the turn and was punching the brakes BAM, hit a giant pothole in the entrance. Complete and instant tire rupture. So I pulled into a spot and on goes the spare, 20 minutes later back home. I have AAA also but why wait an hour or more, plus the 30 minutes to load it up, 30 minutes to deposit it, etc.

So I vote for the spare.
Me too. And you still need to change a tire at some point. AAA may take hours to show although would hope not. I’m a belts and braces guy so leaving it as is. I even check the spare tire pressure.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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The spare is there to ease your despair. So take care, leave it there, I don't dare to drive bare.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 07:48 PM
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Hmmm. Never needed it. And it is not full size, one of those ridiculous temp tires, so what's the point.
As we have a staggered stance, carry 2 tires? I don't think so.

In the handful of times the car has been incapacitated, help was there within the hour. Just enough time for a panini and an espresso.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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A Jaguar with a spare is properly attired.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:15 PM
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the green slime voids most repairs as tire shops won't fix them. I have no spare in my wife's Cadillac, just plug repair kit and compressor. I'm fine for most drives in her car but taking a road trip down to Big Bend national park made me nervous. It worked out. Just a mental adjustment realizing it can take days to get a tire in, not to mention 200 mile tows.
I don't travel as far in the jag but prefer the spare.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 10:38 PM
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Hmmm. Never needed it. And it is not full size, one of those ridiculous temp tires, so what's the point.
As we have a staggered stance, carry 2 tires? I don't think so.

In the handful of times the car has been incapacitated, help was there within the hour. Just enough time for a panini and an espresso.
98% of the land within 100 miles of me is empty desert. Not many panini / espresso bars in the desert. I'd be sittin' and shittin' and pissin' all over the place for a few hours anyway, probably in 115 heat. All by myself.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 11:09 PM
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Finally got one vote for no spare... but yeah where you live makes a big difference. Drove around today without it and I felt a little more pep off the line. The placebo effect is a great thing. But most mods feel placebo until you put them all together right? It's so easy to take in and out maybe trips over a certain mileage I'll put it back? Like that will ever happen...
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 02:22 AM
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Think it's 44lbs for the space saver and tools
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kazi
I was doing some cleaning in the trunk and estimate the spare tire and tools weigh around 60-75lbs using my 50lb daughter as reference. Yey or Ne for those who keep it in. I have AAA towing service so that's a plus. Also looks like a great hidden spot for a bottle of nitrous??? So who sheds the weight?
I got rid of my spare. Not to save weight (I agree with Cee Jay on that) but to create a little more room in the trunk, which is, IMO, more useful than a spare wheel. My reasoning is that, once I remove a wheel to replace with the spare, what do I do with the wheel I have removed? If the car is empty, I might be able to fit it in somewhere, but it sure doesn't look like it will be easy. And the road wheel is going to be filthy too, although you can prepare for that by keeping a tarp in the car I guess, to wrap the wheel in before trying to jam it onto the back seats, or wherever.

Also, do I see myself, in good clothes and shoes (invariably the case when I am in the XKR), wrestling with a wheel, possibly in the dark and / or the rain (I am in the UK and we get a lot of both) by the side of a major road, with other traffic hurtling past, just feet from my head? Not really. I am a member of a good vehicle recovery service, and even though they can take 45 minutes to arrive, I'd rather wait for a professional to deal with the problem. I'd likely 'lose' the 45 minutes if I used the spare by 1) taking a lot longer to change the wheel than a pro and 2) having to drive the rest of my journey at 50 mph.

OTOH, I can use the squirty can of gloop pretty easy (and have done in the past but not on my Jaguar). If that doesn't fix things, then I'd call the recovery service (the RAC in the UK).

I can see the arguments for keeping the spare - but in my case have decided that the extra space in the trunk (and the weight-saving, although that isn't important to me, but it's still there) is of greater benefit than carrying around a spare wheel I may never even use.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
98% of the land within 100 miles of me is empty desert. Not many panini / espresso bars in the desert. I'd be sittin' and shittin' and pissin' all over the place for a few hours anyway, probably in 115 heat. All by myself.
I’d love a drive through your backyard. Perhaps we can find bbq and cold ones, instead?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
98% of the land within 100 miles of me is empty desert. Not many panini / espresso bars in the desert. I'd be sittin' and shittin' and pissin' all over the place for a few hours anyway, probably in 115 heat. All by myself.
LOL. Despite my post above, if I lived where you do, I'd probably keep the spare. In the UK, the RAC arrive within the hour, often in 30 minutes, no matter where you are mostly (small country) so I figure that even with the wait, I still get to where I am going at more or less the same time. And what would be the point of paying for an annual RAC membership if I decide not to use their service when I need it.

As someone else remarked, the spare on my car had never been used when I removed it 12 years after it had been installed by the factory...
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 06:03 AM
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Just AAMOI, of all the people who have decided to keep their spare wheel, how many have actually ever used it?

In my case, it has been about 30 years since I had a flat tyre. (Tempting fate now.... )
 
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