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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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I am excited for the new Vette. All this talk for so long, the rumors, etc... And here it is. Looks pretty wicked too. Still looks like Vette which it should. I wonder how dealerships will handle uptick in customers looking to test drive one? Will they be douches about a test drive? Need show up in Aston with a checkbook in the shirt pocket? I hope not. Can't wait to see the GT racing version once it's ready. Could really shake things up in race series it competes in.

Still buying a Lotus over Corvette even if it blows by me.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 03:46 PM
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Well, there was the MR2 from Toyota.
Those crappy Pontiac Fieros from the 80's too. The excitement (at least to me) is not that it's mid-engineed but the claimed performance specs. I personally would be more interested in the top speed and handling rather than how fast you can get to 60 mph. You only accelerate once but top speed keeps going. Build quality too.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 03:57 PM
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Those crappy Pontiac Fieros from the 80's too.
Crappy Delorean and others. None that were Ferrari competitors.
And what about the build quality on a Ferrari.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 04:03 PM
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Crappy Delorean and others. None that were Ferrari competitors.
And what about the build quality on a Ferrari.
I don't know, the DeLorean has become a cult-like car especially because of the movie series. They look good too. Never owned a Ferrari so can't comment on build quality.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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Crappy Delorean and others. None that were Ferrari competitors.
And what about the build quality on a Ferrari.
The build quality on a Ferrari is highly variable with the Ferrari.

I used to do a lot of events with the local Ferrari community, I have been in and around and under a lot of different Ferrari's.

Ferrari's have amazing leatherwork and trim in the interiors.

Older Ferrari's if you have two of the same model/year together; you can start spotting differences.

The TR was a major milestone in quality for Ferrari.

The 360 is where Ferrari started to have real build quality overall.

Prior to the 360, there are often metallurgical problems and flaws in almost any model.

The 360 is where I would finally be comfortable driving it in the rain.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 05:50 PM
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The older Ferraris from the 1950s through the 1970s were mostly assembled by hand, so if you were to park two next to each other, there were distinct differences. They also would feel different on the road as well, so each was unique, especially through the 1960s.

My two favourites were the 275 GTB/4 and the 365 GTB/4, although there was a very limited run of the 365 GTC, which looked very much like a 330 GTC with minor cosmetic differences.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 06:07 PM
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I'm personally not a fan of GM pushrod engines, but I would be interested in seeing the design of the cooling system and engine compartment ducting for dissipating heat. I understand why GM persist with their engine design as it's more compact than an overhead cam layout, but it cannot rev as high, nor breathe as efficiently due to the size and number of valves. Variable cam timing is also limited since there's only one cam.

It's too bad Jaguar didn't move forward with the CX-75, but with electric drivetrains on the horizon having instant torque, it's understandable.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NBCat
I'm personally not a fan of GM pushrod engines, but I would be interested in seeing the design of the cooling system and engine compartment ducting for dissipating heat. I understand why GM persist with their engine design as it's more compact than an overhead cam layout, but it cannot rev as high, nor breathe as efficiently due to the size and number of valves. Variable cam timing is also limited since there's only one cam.

It's too bad Jaguar didn't move forward with the CX-75, but with electric drivetrains on the horizon having instant torque, it's understandable.
Might want to look at the NASCAR V8's as they turn almost 10K . My old twin cam Ferrari was only good to 7500 whereas the later F-car engines turned in the 10K + range.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 08:29 AM
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...but it cannot rev as high, nor breathe as efficiently due to the size and number of valves.
I am not a pushrod engine expert, but I have seen push rod engines able to reach 8000 rpm without float/other issues, it is largely about head setup. I don't understand your "breathe as efficiently" point.

Personally, I think that I4 and I6 engines make more sense as overhead cam. V6 and V8 make more sense as pushrod. Why? Timing chain is always a weak point with V -configuration OHC, oiling cams is always an issue with any OHC.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:01 AM
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The convertible.
That is all.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/we-s...ear-above-view
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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I don't care about if it revs or not; is the drivetrain capable of fast acceleration? Is the drivetrain capable of decent fuel economy? Is the drivetrain reliable and long lived? Is the power in usable ranges? The answer to all of those is yes with the GM LS and newer pushrod V8s.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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I dunno, those 3/4 side and full side shots make it look sorta weird. I also hope the rear is lower than depicted cuz it looks a bit like '70s air shocks on the back end.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 10:31 AM
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I dunno, those 3/4 side and full side shots make it look sorta weird. I also hope the rear is lower than depicted cuz it looks a bit like '70s air shocks on the back end.
That just means you get better gas mileage because you're always going downhill.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 10:52 AM
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That has Magnum P.I. written all over it.


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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pk4144
Dam now I'm conflicted. When will this be available or is it just a dream.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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I like it. A lot. Let's see where it is in 2-3 years.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:01 PM
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For Chevrolet a pushrod is more about politics and heritage. They invented it after all.
And its important for Corvette to fly that flag.

Sometimes you have to look at the tail-end of the animal to figure out what it is.
Can you imagine the worlds largest pushrod engine manufacturer using overhead cams in their flagship car.

The corvette is also about selling trucks and crate engines.
Just like winning at the races is really about selling lesser road-going cars.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:07 PM
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Isn't the SRT Viper still also a pushrod engine?

For me, the sound matters more than OHC or pushrod.

And a reality check on pushrod engines being dated tech; DOHC with 4 valves per cylinder is 1913 technology.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
I am not a pushrod engine expert, but I have seen push rod engines able to reach 8000 rpm without float/other issues, it is largely about head setup. I don't understand your "breathe as efficiently" point.

Personally, I think that I4 and I6 engines make more sense as overhead cam. V6 and V8 make more sense as pushrod. Why? Timing chain is always a weak point with V -configuration OHC, oiling cams is always an issue with any OHC.
No doubt there are pushrod engines that can turn up to 8 thousand rpm, but when I think of the engines, I'm referring to ones used in production vehicles. For that matter, Ferrari Formula One engines from the mid-1990s could reach nearly 15 thousand rpm, but that's not relevant when discussing production cars.

The valve area is less with only two valves per cylinder, thus there is less air that can flow into the cylinder.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:31 PM
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Sweet jesus that's one ugly interior...and a square steering wheel? WFT were they thinking?
 
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