Cake-eaters being able to get in and out of the car without lying down on the pavement first.

 

Cake eaters drive F-Types also

 

This is about fitting circles inside other circles. You can cover more area of a bigger circle with small circles. However, I am not convinced that 2 are not enough. I attached a picture of performance small block head as a demonstration. Bigger hole is exhaust valve opening.



Here is Jaguar F-type V6 head:

 

Nah, the larger hole is for the Intake. It's more difficult to suck air than it is to push it, so intake is always larger than exhaust. Plus, by the position in your photo, the smaller exhaust valve hole is very near the exhaust port holes for the header flange.

 

The reason for dual cam shafts per cylinder and multiple valves per cylinder isn't about peak flow rates in a static test tube cylinder.

More valves per cylinder makes the mass of each individual valve less.

Also, when valves are partially closed having more valves of a smaller diameter can yield a greater perimeter.

There are also combustion and scavenging factors that I must admit are beyond my knowledge.

 

I just talked to a local dealer. They have 19 car allotment. They are taking a $5K holding deposit and using the $60 K as the base price. When you put down the deposit you order what options you want. They don't have all of the pricing yet but are working that most cars will range from $65-$75K. Also chatting with other guys on different posts it looks like most major dealers are getting about 20 car allotments. This dealer says they have 8 orders so far and expect to sell out in the next 2-3 weeks. He also mentioned these cars will be delivered maybe late Dec. or early 2020. The convertible models will be mid to late 2020 for delivery. They also noted other dealers are asking for a $5-$10K premium. When the allotments run out you'll have to wait for the 2021 MY. So I guess the net here is if you want one you need to make a decision now.

 

Sounds about right. When the Hellcat came out my friend went in to inquire and they said they were only getting 2 cars total. Back then they were asking about 10k over sticker.

 

I would be highly surprised if in response to selling out 2020 run Chevy simply won't make more 2020 C8. Especially if all planned allocations sell out early, giving them advanced indication of demand. Unlike exotic car manufacturers, Chevy is a proper mass producing car manufacturer. They are more than capable (and happy to) make enough C8 that anyone interested and able to afford can have one each.

You may be able to speculate on your C8 order for the first month or two if you happen to get the very first few allocations, by the end of 2020 dealers will be discounting year-end models to make room for 2021 like with every Chevy out there since the beginning of time.

 

They are limited to what their very old dedicated production line and factory can produce. In an area where labor is not as abundant as Michigan or Ohio.
Plus in the Vette buying world there is a feeding frenzy for low numbers. When I was buying and selling the 90's ZR1, it would be $20k above sticker for a high number, whereas low number could fetch $30-$40k above sticker.
There are tons of people who buy the first generation vettes to put them in a safe deposit box, in anticipation of a future winner, so low numbers matter.

Telling you, dont focus on the discount 2 years later, focus on the free ride for 2 years when you sell it for few thousand less than what you gave for it. That's the discount. Go look at the FJ Cruiser as recent example.

 

I dunno. I think it's more batmobile inspired?

 

I can see the logic of order, drive for a little, and sell for a profit.(short term)

However, for the long term I'd look at the first generation Viper.

It was the hot dog when it came out. Hotter dogs have come out since.

 

first thing i thought

 

Why not look at early C7 instead?

Quick search on autotrader, and I could easily find 2014 C7 in decent condition for under 35K USD. Suppose it was a no-options model sold for 57K when new. That is $22K depreciation or $3.6K per year. While this depreciation is not as bad as on my F-type, it is by no means a depreciation-free ride. This lead me to believe that in 2024 I will be able to pick up early C8 in decent condition for under 35K..

 

Wont happen. I will take a gentleman's bet on it.
Reason, there is no international demand for the C7, nor was it groundbreaking. Look at the somewhat-groundbreaking vettes from the same year, you will find a different story.

This is an international sensation, look no further than all the mags around the world reviewing it. To be perfectly honest I dont even know what the C7 looks like, that's how much I cared for that.

 

 

We are talking in the family but the conflict is coupe vs convertible. Then again would it be as good a cruiser as the Jag or would it be as unique. Early indications are it will be a hot seller where the que is filling up and it would mean 20 cars in the area where there are only 2 XK's in the county now. Now if I were to sell my low mileage (25K) beauty it would be for a good price but not a bargain. Enjoy the ride.

 

Will ya look at that, it took just one day to prove me right.
In today's news, the entire first year's production of Corvette C8 is sold out in just 2 weeks since being announced, not even test driven!

Best of luck trying to find a mid-engine car that does 0-60 in 3secs for $35k, heck any car that does 3secs for $35k.
Good luck staying young till that miracle happens

 

I predict that you will see quite a lot of the C8's showing up crashed at the salvage yards over the next year or two.

 

Deal. If we are around in 2024, and I can find C8 with a clean title for 35K (inflation-adjusted to 2024 currency accepted in the state of New York) on Autotrader, I will pick your forum signature for a month.

 

OK looks like one down. https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...crash-happens/