2000 XKR Convertible - too cheap?
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2000 XKR Convertible - too cheap?
Hi guys, I'm visiting from the S-type world thinking about adding an XK8 or XKR to the fleet. This car :
2000 Jaguar XKR Convertible - Ottawa Cars For Sale - Kijiji Ottawa Canada.
appeals to me but it seems too good to be true, keeping in mind this car is in Canada where our resale prices are considerably higher than US. Although the seller mentions 'needs some light TLC' I can't imagine given the rest of the description it's anything major. I'll write the seller asking what he meant by light TLC, but in the interim would any of you have some words of wisdom to share? Note also the pics shows a Florida plate with palms trees, so this might just be a scam.
2000 Jaguar XKR Convertible - Ottawa Cars For Sale - Kijiji Ottawa Canada.
appeals to me but it seems too good to be true, keeping in mind this car is in Canada where our resale prices are considerably higher than US. Although the seller mentions 'needs some light TLC' I can't imagine given the rest of the description it's anything major. I'll write the seller asking what he meant by light TLC, but in the interim would any of you have some words of wisdom to share? Note also the pics shows a Florida plate with palms trees, so this might just be a scam.
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New belt tensioners? You should confirnm it is the timing chain tensioners as there is no timing belt.
Also, what I can see from the photos:
-Wrinkled A-pillar trim. Very common, probably needs recovering of A-pillar trim, header and headliner due to deteriorated foam.
-Missing screw on rear trim. Indication that the top hoses and/or cylinders were probably serviced at some point.
-What is behind the screen stuck on the dash?
-It probably was in a rear end collision...the 'XK' and 'R' badges do not appear aligned.
Also, what I can see from the photos:
-Wrinkled A-pillar trim. Very common, probably needs recovering of A-pillar trim, header and headliner due to deteriorated foam.
-Missing screw on rear trim. Indication that the top hoses and/or cylinders were probably serviced at some point.
-What is behind the screen stuck on the dash?
-It probably was in a rear end collision...the 'XK' and 'R' badges do not appear aligned.
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2000 xkr
Always interesting to get the background on a vehicle for sale, especially one being advertised in Canada with Florida plates.
Also interesting to see a picture of the back seat when one is offering the XK series for sale - like that is the seat everyone is "scooting" in and out of. Where are the close up pictures of the front seats - especially the driver's seat?
Possibly get a carfax from the serial number. While these can have errors, it may give you an indication where and how it was originally titled and some history. Is the person advertising the vehicle the owner or broker?
I also see a XK series in the background in one of the pictures.
Also interesting to see a picture of the back seat when one is offering the XK series for sale - like that is the seat everyone is "scooting" in and out of. Where are the close up pictures of the front seats - especially the driver's seat?
Possibly get a carfax from the serial number. While these can have errors, it may give you an indication where and how it was originally titled and some history. Is the person advertising the vehicle the owner or broker?
I also see a XK series in the background in one of the pictures.
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Wow- what an eagle-eyed bunch! Thanks for all the comments.
Norri is right that many of us winter in Florida, but the number that drag back a car with them is few. Generally speaking such cars set off a few alarm bells and are not seen as a positive feature which in turn affects value. I'd sooner have a car that was originally sold here than an import via another country, but that's just me.
In this picture:
There appears to be some paint shade variation from the bonnet to the bumper cover as well as a mismatch in contours and gaps. Is this consistent with age, or is it a sign of damage and repaint?
If (big if) this car was for sale in the US, what would you estimate it's retail value at?
Thanks!
Norri is right that many of us winter in Florida, but the number that drag back a car with them is few. Generally speaking such cars set off a few alarm bells and are not seen as a positive feature which in turn affects value. I'd sooner have a car that was originally sold here than an import via another country, but that's just me.
In this picture:
There appears to be some paint shade variation from the bonnet to the bumper cover as well as a mismatch in contours and gaps. Is this consistent with age, or is it a sign of damage and repaint?
If (big if) this car was for sale in the US, what would you estimate it's retail value at?
Thanks!
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The apparent paint mismatch on the front end vs. the hood may not be a problem. Somehow there seems to be an issue with light reflection when taking pictures of these cars. Mine looked that way in its ad, but was fine in person and has no signs of body work or paint respray when viewed in person. Some colors look worse than others.
I passed on a coupe because of this issue, but had a chance to see it after I bought mine and it was fine. (the interior however was not so fine, so I would have passed anyway.)
The gap lines however might be worth a better look.
I passed on a coupe because of this issue, but had a chance to see it after I bought mine and it was fine. (the interior however was not so fine, so I would have passed anyway.)
The gap lines however might be worth a better look.
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Affordable is relative...
I always mess around with my vehicles, altering their power capability, etc.
Knowing this, I purposefully sought a 'cheap' XKR, finding mine on eBay for $8600 USD. It had a minor repair on a fender (I could tell from the paint) and scuffing on the front and rear bumpers. It had over 130,000 miles, but ran well.
So far, I got to drive around the country with it prior to the engine replacement which is currently underway with AVos' supercharger kit being installed. The original engine was pulled at 150,000 miles.
After putting in all new radiator, hoses, air conditioning components, stereo, and engine replacement /enhancement, I'll have spent around $25,000 on the car. I will still need to get it painted and have new leather put on the front seats. It's worth it to me, because I'll basically have a $120,000 Jaguar for $35,000 by the time that I'm done... and it's paid for. =)
It seems to me that if you want to modify a Jag, you should get a cheap one and spend the money on the mods. If you want to keep one near stock appearance and performance, you should buy a more expensive one with fewer miles.
Knowing this, I purposefully sought a 'cheap' XKR, finding mine on eBay for $8600 USD. It had a minor repair on a fender (I could tell from the paint) and scuffing on the front and rear bumpers. It had over 130,000 miles, but ran well.
So far, I got to drive around the country with it prior to the engine replacement which is currently underway with AVos' supercharger kit being installed. The original engine was pulled at 150,000 miles.
After putting in all new radiator, hoses, air conditioning components, stereo, and engine replacement /enhancement, I'll have spent around $25,000 on the car. I will still need to get it painted and have new leather put on the front seats. It's worth it to me, because I'll basically have a $120,000 Jaguar for $35,000 by the time that I'm done... and it's paid for. =)
It seems to me that if you want to modify a Jag, you should get a cheap one and spend the money on the mods. If you want to keep one near stock appearance and performance, you should buy a more expensive one with fewer miles.
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The hood is made of steel. The bumper cover is made of rubber. Only at certain angles will the paint look matching. From that angle any XKR will look discolored.
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In addition, for the paint on the front of a 2000 to look that good, it must either have been refinished or gone no real distance.
I'm lucky to get two years before the stone chips on the bumper make a repaint necessary.
Graham
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Ask about the wheels. The car does not have the original wheels. A 2000 XKR should have the staggered Double Five wheels on it. 18" x 8.5" on front and 18" X 9.5" on the rear. It looks like it has 17" wheels from an early XK8. I'd be very cautious...why would someone put smaller wheels on an XKR?
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I was just washing my perfect 2000 XK8 yesterday and found something that really upset me. There is a windshield crack at the bottom that appears to have started from the bottom edge of the windshield. Can't see for sure where it starts as the bottom edge is hidden by trim. It is about four inches long and really showed up with the water from washing. There was no damage from it being hit by anything such as a rock. Just a clear crack from no apparent cause except poor initial installation or bad edge treatment initially.
Has anyone else had a problem with the windshield cracking when it feels like cracking? This has really P......ed me off.
Has anyone else had a problem with the windshield cracking when it feels like cracking? This has really P......ed me off.
In any case the seller hasn't responded to my emails- possibly he's a lurker here
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If he's a lurker, it could be he's just too terrified in case you start to interrogate him what oil he's been using.
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The ad specifically mentions Florida title with retitling to Ontario after the sale. If the vehicle is not already titled in Canada that would constitute an importation and all of the attendant paperwork and inspections. You need to address that specifically and not accept any weak verbal assurances. It may be impossible to conclude the sale if it has already been brought into the country illegally.
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The ad specifically mentions Florida title with retitling to Ontario after the sale. If the vehicle is not already titled in Canada that would constitute an importation and all of the attendant paperwork and inspections. You need to address that specifically and not accept any weak verbal assurances. It may be impossible to conclude the sale if it has already been brought into the country illegally.
Oh well- I knew there was a catch.
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