Had Upper Front Shock Mounts Renewed..
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Had Upper Front Shock Mounts Renewed..
I had this repair done a few weeks ago. Is this how it should look or is there too much deviation of the bolt from mid-center of the black ring? I assume it's the yellow surround that eventually crumbles and acts as a sign that it's time to renew them again (as well as the chirping noise that sounds as if it's originating from inside the car but isn't).
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My new local indy tech did the work, so I don't know. I don't think I'll ask him to redo them unless it's a significant problem. 'Also had him do a brake job at the same time. They now squeal in reverse. Didn't do that previously with the worn pads/rotors..
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All the geometry is controlled by upper and lower control arms and the ride height, none of which is harmed by what you have there.
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When I first got my 2003 XKR it felt like I was driving on ice. Did not know if it was myself or the car. Anyway I had all the suspension done and replaced the bushes with polyflex ones. Improved vastly but that feeling still lingered. So I bit the bullet so to speak and bought some upper shock mounts. Replaced them. These are the old ones that were taken out. Its obvious these were kn***ed. Feels much, much better now.
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As an update to this, I visited the same indy tech for an unrelated issue and asked him about this. He did not disagree with me that the repair was not how it's supposed to look and had a two-word explanation "Chinese parts". He told me that if I wanted him to redo it with Jag OEM, he would do it at no extra labor charge but that the parts would cost $250 for each side. At least I think that's the amount he said - since I have no plans to have them redone I might have misquoted him.
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As an update to this, I visited the same indy tech for an unrelated issue and asked him about this. He did not disagree with me that the repair was not how it's supposed to look and had a two-word explanation "Chinese parts". He told me that if I wanted him to redo it with Jag OEM, he would do it at no extra labor charge but that the parts would cost $250 for each side. At least I think that's the amount he said - since I have no plans to have them redone I might have misquoted him.
Nothing at all wrong with the parts. I found attention is required while backing off the spring compressor to centralise everything because the bushing won't just find centre itself and once under compression it won't budge.
However l still believe it is entirely nothing more than a bad look, easily hidden.
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Well that's up there with "they all do that".
Nothing at all wrong with the parts. I found attention is required while backing off the spring compressor to centralise everything because the bushing won't just find centre itself and once under compression it won't budge.
However l still believe it is entirely nothing more than a bad look, easily hidden.
Nothing at all wrong with the parts. I found attention is required while backing off the spring compressor to centralise everything because the bushing won't just find centre itself and once under compression it won't budge.
However l still believe it is entirely nothing more than a bad look, easily hidden.
I would start shopping around for a new indie who takes a bit more pride in his work and doesn't make excuses (Chinese parts).
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1) What causes that noise?
2) If I upgrade to OEM, will the noise go away?
Also, the yellow surround material shown above still looks like is does above. It has not crumbled away as is often seen. Does it need to be replaced? Lastly, the car seems to be sitting low in front. Is this caused by the problem we are discussing - upper shock mounts, or is it the springs?
Last edited by MediaBobNY; 10-02-2019 at 03:59 PM. Reason: update
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By way of update to this, the shop agreed to correct the problem. They are asking me if I want them to use the same bushings that they used in the first place, or do I want to upgrade to OEM for around $280. They told me that if I have them to redo it with the original bushings, they will not give me a warranty. The car is currently making that 'chirping noise' that sounds as if it's coming from inside the car but isn't.
1) What causes that noise?
2) If I upgrade to OEM, will the noise go away?
Also, the yellow surround material shown above still looks like is does above. It has not crumbled away as is often seen. Does it need to be replaced? Lastly, the car seems to be sitting low in front. Is this caused by the problem we are discussing - upper shock mounts, or is it the springs?
1) What causes that noise?
2) If I upgrade to OEM, will the noise go away?
Also, the yellow surround material shown above still looks like is does above. It has not crumbled away as is often seen. Does it need to be replaced? Lastly, the car seems to be sitting low in front. Is this caused by the problem we are discussing - upper shock mounts, or is it the springs?
Buy the urethane upgrades from Welsh enterprises. They cost about $149 for the set and are much more durable and they will not cause any difference in ride comfort. Even members that do not like using poly swear by them. They will not crumble and will more than twice outlast the OE mounts.
This is the link to the mounts. Buy these and you won’t have to redo the job in a long time.
https://www.welshent.com/Jaguar-Uppe...ir-P26376.aspx
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Buy the urethane upgrades from Welsh enterprises. They cost about $149 for the set and are much more durable and they will not cause any difference in ride comfort. Even members that do not like using poly swear by them. They will not crumble and will more than twice outlast the OE mounts.
This is the link to the mounts. Buy these and you won’t have to redo the job in a long time.
https://www.welshent.com/Jaguar-Uppe...ir-P26376.aspx
This is the link to the mounts. Buy these and you won’t have to redo the job in a long time.
https://www.welshent.com/Jaguar-Uppe...ir-P26376.aspx
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Lubrication of the original upper shock mounts is a temporary reprieve from the sound. However, it does nothing to address the suspension sagging that is causing everything from sloppy handling to excessive treadwear. The new Welsh shock mounts will resolve most of your issues. Just be sure to get a toe alignment after they are installed...
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Lubrication of the original upper shock mounts is a temporary reprieve from the sound. However, it does nothing to address the suspension sagging that is causing everything from sloppy handling to excessive treadwear. The new Welsh shock mounts will resolve most of your issues.
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