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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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My hypothesis is that some of the spark plugs are bathing in oil, since when I changed them a couple of months ago, the old ones were doing exactly that:





And after changing them, the engine started fine, but I saw similar amounts of white exhaust smoke..

I also have a slow coolant leak.

Can anyone deduce what spark plug seals I need to replace from the photo? And could something else be causative?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 03:37 AM
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1. the Spark Plug Boss Seals need replacing:

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There's two designs. All-in-one (item 16) or separate (items 3 and 4). Either can be used. Also the rubber Camshaft Cover Gaskets should be replaced as re-using them is rarely successful.

2. even more important on a V8 - NEVER ignore coolant leaks.

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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 03:55 AM
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White exhaust smoke is called steam, probably caused by your slow coolant leak.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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Danger! . . . Danger! . . . Will Robinson!

White smoke is coolant and about the only way for it to get into the cylinders is via a head gasket problem.

A thorough investigation of the situation beyond the plugs is called for.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Oil in the plug wells will not cause a misfire, oil is not conductive. The white smoke and coolant loss is possibly a blown headgasket. One thing that could be happening is that when you pulled the plugs, the oil went in the cylinders and burned off. This will produce some smoke although it will be more grey than white. A compression test would be a good start. If you run the engine with the header tank cap off do you see any bubbles? Does it make white smoke all the time or just after you pulled the plugs?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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No bubbles in tank. Car started fine now as it usually does.

I noticed some old coolant by the right, passenger side bank:



I by mistake managed to pull the coolant return? hose off, as you can see I've attached a different clamp.. Also there is some old coolant on the top..thingie:



So it could be the right gasket only?



I also managed to pull out
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jagosaurus
............... Also there is some old coolant on the top..thingie ......
That's the Thermostat Housing. Made of plastic and a regular failure due to cracks. Most members choose to fit an aftermarket aluminium replacement instead of another OE plastic Jaguar part.

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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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+1 on changing the housing to a metal one, I also had a leak in one of the pipes running along the the middle of the V until I changed them too.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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If it were me, I would do a compression check, replace the valve cover gasket, and chase down the coolant leak. The coolant on top of the cap shown, how would it get there?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 04:28 AM
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So, what's the best way to do a compression test? As far as I've gathered:

1. Let engine run for 20 minutes or equivalent to get it warm, then wait 1 hour.
2. Remove all the spark plugs and disconnect the coils.
3. Screw gauge into first bank by hand (to avoid over tightening).
4. Floor the gas pedal, and turn "on" the engine letting it crank 5 times.
5. Read pressure - repeat for the other cylinders.

If you get a low reading on a cylinder more than 10% under the other ones - pour 1 teaspoon of engine oil into the plug hole and retest. If the reading jumps, the piston rings are worn. If not, think valve problems.

Anything missing?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jagosaurus
So, what's the best way to do a compression test? As far as I've gathered:

1. Let engine run for 20 minutes or equivalent to get it warm, then wait 1 hour.
2. Remove all the spark plugs and disconnect the coils.
3. Screw gauge into first bank by hand (to avoid over tightening).
4. Floor the gas pedal, and turn "on" the engine letting it crank 5 times.
5. Read pressure - repeat for the other cylinders.

If you get a low reading on a cylinder more than 10% under the other ones - pour 1 teaspoon of engine oil into the plug hole and retest. If the reading jumps, the piston rings are worn. If not, think valve problems.

Anything missing?
Nope, you seem to have everything covered.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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No need to put a screwdriver in the throttle body?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jagosaurus
No need to put a screwdriver in the throttle body?
As long as the throttle is wide open you should be fine.

You need to let as much air into the cylinder as possible in order to maximise the compression.
 
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