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Old May 7, 2025 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OCJoeR
Hey Y2K,

It was in the compartment horizontally, with the plug at the top, but it just wasn't in the slot that is built into the compartment.

I've been finding some posts on here and the jagforum.com site that have information regarding some tests that can be done on the TCM.

I'm seeing some threads saying that ANY fault code will stop the monitors from resetting. Of course I'm also seeing other threads saying that the TCM fault codes shouldn't stop the monitors from resetting. This seems to be my biggest issue. There does not seem to be any real answer. It's just like the "drive cycles" that are supposed to clear the monitors. One source says drive 55 mph for 5 minutes then take your foot off the gas and coast to 20, another says to drive 35 mph for 30 seconds. I'm beginning to think it's all BULLSH*T and it amounts to built in obsolescence on all these newer cars. I mean when I call the Jaguar dealer and their service depart tells me that they do not work on cars this old I'm thinking Jaguar doesn't give a crap about keeping their cars on the road, just buying new ones, which, I would never do. As a certified "Old Fart" I do not understand how a company can build a car that can not be repaired. In my opinion a "monitor" is supposed to tell you something is wrong. If it can't be reset then it's of no use. There is nothing telling me I have a bad O2 sensor, or a bad CAT. At this point if someone offered me a gold plated Jaguar I'd tell them to keep it. I've been on these forums for 6 months trying to find a solution and no one knows how to fix this. I'm either too old, too stupid or too computer illiterate to drive anything with more wire than steel.
I feel your pain, brother! The issue is the monitor won't set if it thinks the cats aren't up to temp, or working efficiently. And, AFAIK, that depends on a consistent voltage of around 0.6v coming at all times from the downstream sensors. The drive cycles just get the cats up to temp and supposedly get things stabilized. I note that when you posted your voltages your RH cat was all over the place. On mine, both are all over the place, but the RH is worse than the left. I strongly suspect you need a new RH cat and I need two. I hate to do it but I think I'm going to have to cut my losses and sell mine, preferably to somebody out of state. The salvage yards have offered a max of $840, and a min of $450. That would be a crying shame to send this car to the boneyard.
 
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Old May 7, 2025 | 03:40 PM
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I'm going to go out and rerun the fuel trim on the OBD2 again. I haven't done that since the hard reset or replacing the downstream ones.

Do you know what the original equipment Cats looked like? I'm finding lots of cats on ebay. Some look like the ones that are on my car and some are different. On mine the the upstream sensor goes into a port above the cat but the downstream one has the port in the lower part of the cat itself. I'm seeing ones like that but also ones with the downstream sensor in a port that is in a pipe after the cat. This, like everything else Jaguar related, seems to have no simple answer.

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Old May 7, 2025 | 03:46 PM
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I'm going to go out and rerun the fuel trim on the OBD2 again. I haven't done that since the hard reset or replacing the downstream ones.

Do you know what the original equipment Cats looked like? I'm finding lots of cats on ebay. Some look like the ones that are on my car and some are different. On mine the the upstream sensor goes into a port above the cat but the downstream one has the port in the lower part of the cat itself. I'm seeing ones like that but also ones with the downstream sensor in a port that is in a pipe after the cat. This, like everything else Jaguar related, seems to have no simple answer.

Joe
The OEM cats are, as you described, shaped somewhat like a cylinder and have the upstream sensor just above the top of the cat and the downstream sort of in the middle of the cat. The aftermarket cats have the downstream sensor in the downpipe itself, and have a smaller cat body. Technically, the "EPA" cats are illegal in CA and most vendors won't ship them to CA. Of course, those are the reasonably priced ones. We need "CARB" certified cats which are double the money. And bolt-on ones are scarce. Most of the CARB compliant ones are universal fit and will require a muffler shop to weld on the flanges, O2 sensor bungs, etc.

 
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