Does anyone know of a radiator that fits the XKR that uses an AN10 fitting? I'm looking to convert the oil cooler system to standard parts so it's easier to fix and hopefully much more reliable. Swallows sell some AN10 fittings for the engine so I plan to use them and some stainless steel braided lines.

 

I have been looking at aftermarket oil coolers and they sem to have the same mounting system that the OEM coolers have so as long as the width is correct they should fit if I get the same height as well obviously.

 

I went with this one.

https://mattlewisracing.co.uk/produc...32&zCountry=UK

Mocal 10 row. 115mm

Got the rubber mounts too. Fitted no problem with braided lines. I posted about it somewhere.. cant find my old post...

 

Thanks a lot. That will help a lot. These mounts? Mocal Rubber Anti Vibration Mounts – Matt Lewis Racing

 

Setrab series 6

Part No. 50-610-7612
This will be close
They make the seven row
I think this is the 10 row
Pretty sure it will bolt right on
Will be a little taller than the one on my 2005 XK8

Jack

 

Regarding an oil cooler that uses AN-10 fittings, I recently eliminated the transmission cooler that was integrated into the radiator in favor of a stand-alone cooler for the transmission fluid. I installed it directly above the stock oil cooler.

it’s a 19 row AN-10 unit that’s deeper than the the stock XKR oil cooler. but they offer a 16 or 10 row that’s more close to the XKR’s oil cooler size. The 19 row barely fits. In retrospect, I would’ve used the 16 row as an inch less depth would’ve made the fitment much easier.

It’s a basic stacked plate cooler ( not the really cheap tube and fin type) that was fairly inexpensive (read: China). So far no leaks. And my transmission runs cooler and so does the engine coolant (barely).

the whole reason for this started when I had to replace the stock Jaguar radiator which leaked from the side plastic tank. The Nissen replacement radiator is NOT the same quality as the stock 20 year old XKR radiator and as result the engine ran about 10-15 degrees F hotter. I wasn’t surprised as others have posted the same results with the aftermarket radiator.. it does suck that there’s not another alternative of better quality, other than buying the Jaguar part.

But with the transmission fluid rerouted the engine coolant is marginally cooler. Nevertheless I’m very tempted to get a used stock radiator before next summers heat.

The same cooler type can be used for engine oil of course; here is the Amazon link:

https://a.co/d/hXI8sl1


Z
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Thanks for the link. Do you think a 10 row for the oil will be enough? That is what they have as standard I think. Not sure what my coolant radiator looks like but my intercooler one looks too nice to be OEM jaguar. It looks thicker then standard and is all aluminium. Might look at replacing the engine coolant radiator with somehing nicer at some point although I think mine is OK at the moment. Just the oil cooler lines have been leaking for years.

 

I would compare the size of the stock cooler with what’s available. If you think a larger one would fit, then go larger. Just stay away from the “tube and fin” coolers. They are quite inefficient compared to the stacked plate coolers.

offhand I believe there’s unused space side to side but not that much space vertically. You might be able to fit a cooler that’s several inches longer with no problems.

be sure to get the PTFE lined hose. Anything else will degrade eventually.. this is hose I’m using and it’s doing very well so far; 8 months and counting on my daily driver XKR. Do a google search of PTFE hose and you’ll be a believer in it as the best material to carry fuel, oil, ATF, or any other automotive fluid.

of course I’d rather have an all metal line, but the routing makes that pretty hard for an amateur fix.

This was my first experience using the PTFE braided hose. I used up a couple of feet of it in the learning process. Pretty quickly I figured out what was the best technique for cutting and routing. And still ended up with 8 or more extra feet.

https://a.co/d/fA3pS52

Z

 

I think the Mocal radiati=or is stacked plate going from the images? Mocal 10 Row Oil Cooler – Matt Lewis Racing Thanks for the link to the kit, I might see about one similar. Some nice looking red and blue fittings would look cool. I am looking at this hose at the moment T7Design | AN10 PTFE Stainless Steel Braided Hose - 1m And these fittings Aeroquip FBM1014 -10 Straight Hose Pipe Fitting – Matt Lewis Racing not sure if I would need a 90 degree fitting but I would think the straight fit will be OK. Edit: That radiator is plate stacked, it says in the description. I ordered the fitting from Swallows to convert the engine to use AN10. What did you use?

 

I'm getting ready to install an oil cooler with -10 nylon braid ptfe hose sometime this winter as soon as I can get garage time. The cooler I mentioned has the same mounting dimensions as the original. My 2005 XK8 has a seven plate cooler but I will be using at least a 10 plate or larger if it will fit without getting in the way of something else. A 16 row would be great because it will do a better job of radiating head on a hot day while sitting traffic. The seven row is pretty punny when it comes to radiating heat is still air. Keep us posted with lots of pictures.
On The Setrab web site it gives dimensions for all their coolers so you can be sure it will bolt right on.
I'll Check out the one Zray mentioned also. CHEAPER and hopefully as good or better.
I think the hose can be run from engine to cooler in one piece on each side. Fingers crossed.

Jack

 

Yea running the hose in one length makes way more sense then what Jaguar did. Honestly I have no i dea why Jaguar used the hoses they did. Just seem like a terrible design even in installation. There are just too many points of failure and none of the fittings are all that secure comaped to AN10. I'm going to talk to my garage and see if they can do the work, not sure if they want to or not because it's not standard but I don't see why not when it's clearly a better option and far cheaper. If they don't want to do it I guess I will have to try and figure how to do it myself on the gravel. Only need to unbolt them from the engine side and then rip out all the OEM crap. Build the setup and get it sorted before hand and then pull it into towards the engine bolt the hoses into the engine and then mount the radiator. Not sure on lengths but if I get it close enough a little slack should be OK if it's not near anythign spinning. I guess I could just make it up myself and then ask them to fit it, that way they can do it on the lift which should go a lot quicker, would just need to make sure the hoses reach but I should think 1 meter is more then enough to do one side.

 

Someone posted a link a while back where you can purchase the fittings that fits the engine to AN-10 fittings. I think it was Swallow's in UK.

Jack

 

Yea I think that was me, I bought a set today. I just thought others might have found other alternatives.

 

Imma call out the following on the swallows racing listing for the AN10 adapter fitting.



Contact swallows and ask them how much for a complete kit with lines, cooler, fittings.

 

Yea I did read that. I was waiting for them to just list a price and stuff. I'm going to put the kit together myself as a little project.

 

Please Keep us up to date with lots of photos,parts, prices and sources. You might even save me some money

jACK

 

I am sure I'm going ot mess it up. Plan to use some string to trace the path roughly of the OEM lines so I can get the distance about right.

 

one word of caution. It is my understanding that nylon braid ptfe has a tighter bend radi than the stainless braid ptfe. I not sure but check it out before you order hose.

Jack

 

I am looking at this hose at the moment. It's not PTFE and the max temp is 150C but I figure the oil shouldn't be anywhere near 150C anyway otherwise I would have serious problems with the engine at that point. It's not PTFE so it shoudl work with the fittings. T7Design | AN10 Stainless Steel Braided Hose I can get a 90 degree fitting if I can't get it to bend all that much, might do that anyway to be honest.

 

Before buying a non PTFE lined hose you might want to consider this:


the synthetic rubber compound in the hose you are considering is the same material that the stock hoses are made of. The track record of the stock hoses is abysmal.

If you are wanting the same quality as the OEM hose, then the rubber hose is the ticket. If you are wanting an upgrade to something better, then PTFE is the way to go.

A 150 C rated hose sounds nice. But I wouldn’t bet my engine on the long term durability and reliability on any rubber push-on type hose.

sure, the PTFE lined hoses are a pain in the *** to assemble. That’s because the tolerances are that close, and the non-elastic material will not swell up after a few heat cycles like the rubber hoses do.

Z