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Old 08-29-2017, 04:57 PM
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Jimmy D's is in Eastham, MA, or was.



He turned it into a sports bar with live music at the weekends, after Jimmy took it over from his dad, saw some rockin' bands there.
I've heard it some people say it's gone a bit downhill, but I'd have to go back and see for myself really.

To your problem though, agree with RJ237 in having a word with SNG Barrett, mention you're a member on here for the discount. They'll put you right in the parts department.
Is it just the secondary tensioners that you plan to do for now or are you going to tackle the primary chains at the same time?


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Depends on the water pump, whether it has the plastic fins or the metal ones, you need to fetch it off to have a look.
As for the timing chain procedure, download a copy of the JTIS manual found on here and you will have a step by step guide to do the job.
Check the secondary tensioners by removing the valve covers, if you have the red/brown coloured plastic ones, of which many many photos can be found in the forum, they are the 1st/2nd generation, you should have the new type metal bodied ones if they have been changed.
I'm presuming you have the V8 4.0L engine and not the 4.2.
Might be better to start a new thread of your own to get better help.
 
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:08 PM
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So, I need smaller bolts to fit the new tensioners in place? Where do I get these bolts at, SNG Barrett?
 

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Old 08-29-2017, 08:11 PM
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I just plan on doing the secondary tensions for now.
 

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Originally Posted by Aleather
Just had my plastic timing parts replaced on my 1998 Jaguar Xk8...I bought the whole kit, in which, he charged me: $1,200 for this kit, which included the chains, primary tensioners, secondary tensioners and guides. Also, the Harmonic Balancer/Crankshaft Pulley was replaced with a used one for $400 and a new water pump ($200). He took pictures of the what he replaced and gave me the old parts. I thought he was going to replace the whole timing kit that I bought, but when I got there, he said the timing chains where in mint shape, so he didn't replace them. The total for the whole job was: $2,840 and the car rides good!

As shown below, are pictures of the engine shown what was replaced; and the old plastic parts that he replaced... My question is: From the pictures below, it looks like I have to tensioners that where not replaced -Is this a big deal???
Thanks, Art
I don't think he over charged you. And I think he replaced all your parts (even though the old upper tensioners are not shown in the discarded parts). What he did not do and should have done is to upgrade your tensioners with the metal ones. So, IMO, your engine is pretty safe. Eventually, you should upgrade to the metal ones.
 

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Old 08-29-2017, 08:53 PM
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Some kits will come with the shorter bolts. If not, the Ford part number is W500301S300 which any Ford dealer should be able to source for you.
They're about 1/4" shorter than the ones you'll take out.

Were they not included in the original kit you paid for?
 

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Old 08-30-2017, 07:43 AM
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michaelh, The Mechenic/Owner never gave me secondary tensioners from the kit - he did give me the timing chains (4) that where in the kit, but not the secondary tensioners. I did try to contact him, but he never gets back to me. I went there once and he wasn't there <grin>
 

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Old 08-30-2017, 08:00 AM
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Sevep10, Jimmy D's in Eastham closed down. I live right near Eastham, too, but never been there.
 
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:39 PM
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Shame that about Jimmy D's.
 
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This might help. Below is the thread I published sometime back with pictures when I did my secondary tensioners. Stay away from that mechanic.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ics-how-52653/
 
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Aleather - Give us a call, we keep the OEM and aftermarket pieces on the shelf at a fraction of the prices above.
We can also recommend a few shops in your area that have done this job many times and know the cars very well.


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Old 09-01-2017, 04:57 PM
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THANK YOU SNG BARRATT for chiming in here.
Given that you have now read this post, might I ask a question?
Please feel free Not to answer or give an opinion, would be understandable given your position.

Do you think ALeather was overcharged for the parts?
 
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:26 PM
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I just replaced both secondary tensioners with the metal ones and it looks like I was driving a time bomb that was just about to go off!!! Below is a picture of the old plastic tensioners. I will finish job tomorrow. Hopefully the car will start right up and purr like a car... LOL <GRIN>
 
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:32 PM
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EZDRVER Your old plastic tensioners shows a spring on the piston and mine didn't have a spring on the piston - What is up with that??? Maybe it's because your car is a 2000 and mine is a 1998?
 

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Old 09-02-2017, 01:55 AM
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And that just goes to show how **** poor that mechanic was.

Is it the picture, or are one of those tensioners a bit sqiew-iff?

Jaguar added a spring in the tensioner to "upgrade" it, basically it was supposed to get rid of the death rattle, in the second gen tensioners.
If you have no spring then quite possibly you had the 1st gen lot.

Now you've tackled that job, wasn't so hard now was it.................

Good work, well done.
 
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:30 AM
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I finished the tensioner job today and started the car and it run good for about 5 minutes and started to stall out. I looked at the dash and when it starts to stall it says, 'Restricted Proformance'. What could be wrong? Did one of the valve covers gasket not go on right???
 

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Old 09-02-2017, 10:01 AM
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You need a code reader, too many possibilities.
 
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:24 AM
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I found the problem that caused the 'Restricted Proformance' light to come on: I forget to hook up the connector to the air filter housing! I'm going to take it for a ride soon and I will let you all know how I done...
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Well done on dodging the bullet

Those boys weren't long for this world...
 
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:56 AM
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Thanks to this forum and all the help, another Jaguar will keep on keeping on!!!! The Jag purrs like a cat!!!
 
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Great news to hear
Now...............about those primary chains.......................
 
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