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Old 08-21-2017, 01:04 PM
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Installed new rear subframe bushes today. Got a new (old) A frame from a breaker and, after a certain amount of research and consideration, decided to replace like with like rather than go with Polyurethene bushes. Reasoning is that Jaguar put a lot of thought into a very complicated structure - aluminium centre bonded to a steel core surrounded by a rubber compound which must be aligned in a very specific way. I'm just not convinced that a big chunk of yellow or purple or black industrial polymer will have the same characteristics and I don't drive in a way that requires a stiff suspension with some loss of noise isolation.
Got the old ones out fairly easily - cut out the centre aluminium core with a standard jig-saw, then set fire to the rubber with a blowtorch - let it burn for 15 minutes or so - then tapped out what was left with a hammer. Some fairly nasty toxic smoke, so don't try this indoors or close to the neighbour's small children, but worked for me !

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Cleaned up the internal surfaces with a wire brush. The new bushes are bonded in with epoxy resin glue. Orientation is very specific so lots of marks on masking tape to get it exactly right.

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The "proper" way to do this is with a hydraulic press but I don't have one of those so decided to make a special tool out of a couple of bits of timber and some threaded studding (total cost around £5.00 = $7US). Jaguar also specify quick drying epoxy, but I figure that's more about getting the car off the 4 post lift as soon as possible whereas I have plenty of time so went with a standard "don't disturb for 24 hours" type of stuff.

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Everything went extremely well, but as the bushes are slightly longer than the bore in the A frame, I needed an additional special tool for that final inch or so - four more bolts.

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I reckon getting the old ones out took around an hour, and pretty much the same for getting the new ones in. Just need to clean up the A Frame - give it a coat of rust inhibitor and paint - and then it's old one off, new (old) one in.

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Very ingenious, congratulations. I guess I am lucky to have a buddy with a press.
 
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that's how we do it to lower front control arms on 60 's-70 's mopars
 
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That's is a really clever and neat way to install the new bushes DevonDavid. Thanks for posting pictures - as I have mentioned I have the yellow polybushses in my A frame so hopefully a job never to repeat, but your method is a very good idea that can be applied for other bush installation. cheers
 
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That's is a really clever and neat way to install the new bushes DevonDavid. Thanks for posting pictures - as I have mentioned I have the yellow polybushses in my A frame so hopefully a job never to repeat, but your method is a very good idea that can be applied for other bush installation. cheers
Thanks for the kind words. I'm sure the polybushes are good, and I guess it's quite possible that Jaguar would have fitted them in 1997 had they been available, and if it made financial sense, so I'm in no way being judgemental. But - from the research I did, one or two people said that the ride was "firmer" with polyurethane and I'm quite happy with "soft" for the sort of driving I do and I would have thought that there might be better noise "isolation" between suspension and car-body with the original rubber / metal bushes.
 
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:54 AM
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Gotta love the combination of using fire and a homemade press to solve the problem. Congrats....
 
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I'm lucky in that my car is "an old man's hobby" rather than a daily driver / essential means of transport. So - I can take my time to do stuff, and I also enjoy the challenge of doing it myself.
It's not really about saving money and I have a very good local garage (shop) that does work on my other cars and, if it's tyres or welding or things I really can't do, I trust them to work on the XK8. But - there's a feeling of satisfaction when a lump of wood and a few bolts makes what looks like a difficult job into quite an easy one.
 
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Excellent David, nice work. Making, rather than buying a tool is half the fun.

I found used polymer cutting boards from yard sales work well for projects. I've made table saw guides and router guides from them in the past.
 
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Making, rather than buying a tool is half the fun.

Don't disagree with that but ............... I live about 10 minutes away from here :

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Don't tell Mrs. DD but there are many times when temptation gets the better of me !!
 

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