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Old 12-05-2013, 03:11 PM
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Good afternoon,
I am looking to purchase a used engine for my 2001 XKR and would like to know if I can verify a used engine's milage and origin with a CARFAX report.
  • Where is the engine ID stamped?
  • Is the VIN stamped on the Jaguar's original engine?
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:05 PM
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There is no VIN on the engine and other than the original assembly build sheet no relationship between the VIN and engine serial. A dealer can print the vehicle build sheet from the VIN . . . but you have to start with the VIN.

The engine has a serial number that is coded with the date of manufacture at the engine plant . . . not the vehicle assembly. The format is yymmddhhmm.
 
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Originally Posted by toronadomike
Good afternoon,
I am looking to purchase a used engine for my 2001 XKR and would like to know if I can verify a used engine's milage and origin with a CARFAX report.
  • Where is the engine ID stamped?
  • Is the VIN stamped on the Jaguar's original engine?
Thank you,
Mike
The ONLY thing you can absolutely verify on a used engine is the precise build date using the decode test point gave you in post #2.

See 'B' for the location of the Engine Number:

Is VIN on engine block?-engine-number.jpg

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Old 12-06-2013, 08:28 AM
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Default then there is no way to verify actual miles on a used engine...

So if I understand correctly, there is no way to verify that a particular engine came out of a low milage car. But you could verifiy by dates and options that an engine did NOT come out of a particular car, especially if the engine seller presented a VIN with a build date preceeding the engine build date.
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Originally Posted by toronadomike
So if I understand correctly, there is no way to verify that a particular engine came out of a low milage car. .........
Any Jaguar Dealer can look up the VIN of a car using the Direct Dealer Warranty system and cross reference the engine number that was originally fitted to it.

I don't think the system is setup to work in reverse to identify the VIN of a car from the engine number.

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In general you are correct but I am sure there are examples out there with replacement engines that are newer than the vehicle itself.
 
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This is going to be a problem for me too. My mechanic is awfully slow getting me the data for the 50K (I hope) engine he installed. It will obviously raise the value of my 130+K car, but I must be able to prove it to a prospective buyer. Not sure how that's going to work out.
 
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Default just pulled the RH valve cover...

under the RH valve cover i found both cams broke in two and the bearing caps loose. some stripped out of the block. not sure if I can re-tap for the next size larger diameter bolts and install used cams. I met the hack in Miami who repaired the engine after a timing chain failure, so I guess I better check the LH camshafts also.
not sure where I'm going to find used camshafts, even if I can fix the stripped out bearing cap holes in the head.
I guess this explains why I always had low oil pressure at idle after it warmed up.
 
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