Why do these cars seem to run so hot?
#21
Good idea, but
I agree it would be a great idea, either wrapping or ceramic coating. HOWEVER removing the exhaust manifolds would be quite the ordeal. If I were going to do some heavy exhaust modifications then the headers would be removed and heat wrapped. I would also change to a higher performance cat system and maybe replace the front exhaust system with a X pipe. But just puling the exhaust headers for heat wrapping, I don't know if its worth the agony or the cost involved.
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https://www.heatshieldproducts.com/lava-exhaust-wrap
this is the product that my friend recommends: Lava Exhaust Wrap, see link above. His technique for installation is to use a ribbon of the same dimensions to measure what you need for each section, especially good for header installations. you can then cut the product to a good working length.
this is the product that my friend recommends: Lava Exhaust Wrap, see link above. His technique for installation is to use a ribbon of the same dimensions to measure what you need for each section, especially good for header installations. you can then cut the product to a good working length.
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you can get away with the wrap on cast iron parts, but not on thin sheet metal like headers and connecting pipes without the metal degrading from excessive heat. I've seen many sets of sheet metal headers that were paper thin and literally crumbled when squeezed. No rust involved, just too much heat that is captured by the wrap and the metal justgets very brittle and burns away.eventually.
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you can get away with the wrap on cast iron parts, but not on thin sheet metal like headers and connecting pipes without the metal degrading from excessive heat. I've seen many sets of sheet metal headers that were paper thin and literally crumbled when squeezed. No rust involved, just too much heat that is captured by the wrap and the metal justgets very brittle and burns away.eventually.
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my Honda technician used to say about modifications that if something was such a good idea, why did not the manufacturer do it.
sometimes the people who designed and made it are smarter than us
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And sometimes they design stuff like the plastic tensioners, the cup holder and the hydraulic convertible top latch.
Your Honda tech failed to take into account the cost factor vs. greed of manufacturer.
Your Honda tech failed to take into account the cost factor vs. greed of manufacturer.
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OEM exhaust manifold gasket for 4.2 SC engines from X350 and X200 cars is a nice alternative to wraps - it contains a full heatshield which goes around exhaust manifold. When I did my 4.2 engine swap I used these gaskets with 4.0 exhaust manifolds without issues. Some bending of car's underbonnet heatshields may be required.
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rothwell (07-23-2018)
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I wonder if the perception of heat off the engine bay is related to whether the car has been out in the hot sun for a long period and effectively heating the surrounding area such that radiating engine heat has less of an opportunity to disperse, instead adding to the heat that's already there making the whole front clip ~200F.
I drive my car virtually every day in the Florida heat. When I start from the garage and make a trip long enough to bring engine to full temp I don't notice it when I return. If I drive it after it has been parked outdoors in the sun for a a few hours then I do notice when I park it in the garage. .
I drive my car virtually every day in the Florida heat. When I start from the garage and make a trip long enough to bring engine to full temp I don't notice it when I return. If I drive it after it has been parked outdoors in the sun for a a few hours then I do notice when I park it in the garage. .
This is an execellent post, thank you. I am now realizing that heat is potentially a major issue. When my new to me, 2013 X351 XJ sat outside on the dock in the tropics, beginning this August for 5 - 6 weeks it was hot enough to melt parts of my leather dash. And now I have alternator issues, but have been reading that the cables in the x type (at least) that connect the alternator are sensitive to heat and tend to have high internal resistance.
I am wondiering what other cables, hoses and parts in e.g 2010 - 2014 Jaguars, especially the X351 would not fare well being left out in the summer sun in the tropics for the best part of nearly 2 months... (I also wonder if AGM batteres can cope with the heat in the tropics)
#29
Its simple ...at idle the water pump does not go quite fast enough ..raise the revs slightly and the temp drops...any body find a slightly smaller pump pulley? A reduction from 112 mm to 100 would be perfect.
You need the electric fans on all the time ...Mine run on half speed at all times. single wire to earth (97 model) does that . a switch for full speed is useful and turn the air con off in traffic.
82 deg C thermostat
You need the electric fans on all the time ...Mine run on half speed at all times. single wire to earth (97 model) does that . a switch for full speed is useful and turn the air con off in traffic.
82 deg C thermostat
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I have owned a lot of different cars over the years and I can't remember any car that seems to through out as much heat as my 2003 XK8.
Call me crazy but, after a drive the car just seems to be very hot under the hood. No wonder coolant hoses and anything rubber or plastic fails in that environment. I have actually gotten in the habit of opening the hood after a drive to help cool things off (I think it helps).
Just looking for other opinions on the issue????????
Call me crazy but, after a drive the car just seems to be very hot under the hood. No wonder coolant hoses and anything rubber or plastic fails in that environment. I have actually gotten in the habit of opening the hood after a drive to help cool things off (I think it helps).
Just looking for other opinions on the issue????????
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