XK100: is the seller smoking crack?
#1
01-29-2015, 03:00 PM
XK100: is the seller smoking crack?
I think so. $40k for one of these would be stratospheric enough, but with 31k miles?
Or am I utterly unaware of the value of this edition, which can't seriously be THAT special?
*edit - sorry, it's an XKR100. I still say he should put the crack pipe down.
Or am I utterly unaware of the value of this edition, which can't seriously be THAT special?
*edit - sorry, it's an XKR100. I still say he should put the crack pipe down.
Last edited by BurgXK8; 01-29-2015 at 03:01 PM. Reason: wrong model cited in headline
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01-29-2015, 04:57 PM
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01-29-2015, 05:46 PM
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01-29-2015, 11:33 PM
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01-30-2015, 12:17 AM
It is late at night and I am tired, but I didn't see where he claimed that the vehicle has a LSD. And are you implying that his vehicle is NOT 2 wheel drive, and/or that all 2 wheel drive vehicles must necessarily have a LSD?
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01-30-2015, 06:09 AM
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01-30-2015, 09:28 AM
recaros?
I can't tell for sure of the car really has Recaros but maybe. Didn't see the part about a LSD as an option.
I suspect this "special" edition was only special as long as it took Jaguar to get rid of the remaining supply of 4.0 liter engines in 2002, right before the changeover to the 4.2. Other than that it's little more than a nice XKR doubling as a birthday card for some dead dude.
I suspect this "special" edition was only special as long as it took Jaguar to get rid of the remaining supply of 4.0 liter engines in 2002, right before the changeover to the 4.2. Other than that it's little more than a nice XKR doubling as a birthday card for some dead dude.
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01-30-2015, 11:22 AM
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I think it does have Recaro seats. They appear to be same style as these currently on Ebay:
Jaguar XKR XK8 Recaro Seats | eBay
Jaguar XKR XK8 Recaro Seats | eBay
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01-30-2015, 12:58 PM
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I can't tell for sure of the car really has Recaros but maybe. Didn't see the part about a LSD as an option.
I suspect this "special" edition was only special as long as it took Jaguar to get rid of the remaining supply of 4.0 liter engines in 2002, right before the changeover to the 4.2. Other than that it's little more than a nice XKR doubling as a birthday card for some dead dude.
I suspect this "special" edition was only special as long as it took Jaguar to get rid of the remaining supply of 4.0 liter engines in 2002, right before the changeover to the 4.2. Other than that it's little more than a nice XKR doubling as a birthday card for some dead dude.
With most manufacturers offering so-called "special" or "limited" editions, these are often the last production run before the new model and in most cases these are purely cosmetic.
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01-30-2015, 01:05 PM
According to Thorley's book, the major "plusses" included contrasting piping at the interior leather, drilled rotors and performance handling package (which presumably included the Recaro seats), and special badging.
With most manufacturers offering so-called "special" or "limited" editions, these are often the last production run before the new model and in most cases these are purely cosmetic.
Doug
With most manufacturers offering so-called "special" or "limited" editions, these are often the last production run before the new model and in most cases these are purely cosmetic.
Doug
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01-30-2015, 06:29 PM
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01-30-2015, 10:16 PM
If, as you say, only one wheel is EVER driven, why would car manufacturers not save a lot of complication and money and just have the driveshaft connect to one wheel in a standard vehicle?
According to Wikipedia:
"A conventional "open" (non-locked or otherwise traction-aided) differential always supplies close to equal (because of limited internal friction) torque to each side. To illustrate how this can limit torque applied to the driving wheels, imagine a simple rear-wheel drive vehicle, with one rear roadwheel on asphalt with good grip, and the other on a patch of slippery ice. It takes very little torque to spin the side on slippery ice, and because a differential splits torque equally to each side, the torque that is applied to the side that is on asphalt is limited to this amount.
Based on the load, gradient, et cetera, the vehicle requires a certain amount of torque applied to the drive wheels to move forward. Since an open differential limits total torque applied to both drive wheels to the amount used by the lower traction wheel multiplied by a factor of 2, when one wheel is on a slippery surface, the total torque applied to the driving wheels may be lower than the minimum torque required for vehicle propulsion."
Differential (mechanical device) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Based on the load, gradient, et cetera, the vehicle requires a certain amount of torque applied to the drive wheels to move forward. Since an open differential limits total torque applied to both drive wheels to the amount used by the lower traction wheel multiplied by a factor of 2, when one wheel is on a slippery surface, the total torque applied to the driving wheels may be lower than the minimum torque required for vehicle propulsion."
Differential (mechanical device) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-31-2015, 03:52 AM
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bakntyme, say what you want but to me, it's misleading. Calling out something that is standard on all cars, as if it's something special, is misleading. The bottom line is that when you step on the gas you'll leave one black mark, not two as only one wheel will only ever have torque applied to it. When I sold my Saturn L200, I did not specify two wheel drive and anyone willing to pay $45k for that car would likely take the "two wheel drive" statement to mean LSD, which I believe was his intent.
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01-31-2015, 10:18 AM
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01-31-2015, 10:39 AM
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I think you guys are putting WAY too much thought into this. By most of your reasoning, a four-wheel drive truck (with open diffs) would be classified as a TWO wheel drive vehicle. Yes, I know all about spider gears, lockers, clutch packs, friction modifiers and the lot.
The was most vehicles are marketed are either Front Wheel Drive, Rear Wheel Drive, ALL wheel Drive, or Four Wheel Drive.
For argument's sake, both rear wheels ARE driven on a rear wheeler, as long as neither one loses enough traction to enable the open diff to stop the other one.
The was most vehicles are marketed are either Front Wheel Drive, Rear Wheel Drive, ALL wheel Drive, or Four Wheel Drive.
For argument's sake, both rear wheels ARE driven on a rear wheeler, as long as neither one loses enough traction to enable the open diff to stop the other one.
