XKR2003 P1338 Fuel pump not working
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XKR2003 P1338 Fuel pump not working
So I was out driving and the car suddenly stopped. Fuelpump not working.
When I connect fuelpump direct to battery it works and the car can be driven.
Changed the fuel pump module = not working
Changed the fuelpump = not working
Tried new wires from the ECU to the fuel pump module = not working
All the wiring from pump are tested and ok.
All fuses are ok.
I have both + and - into the fuel pump module, but nothing to the pump.
I´m now running out of ideas what to do!!!
I get 2 codes:
P1338 and B1202
When I connect fuelpump direct to battery it works and the car can be driven.
Changed the fuel pump module = not working
Changed the fuelpump = not working
Tried new wires from the ECU to the fuel pump module = not working
All the wiring from pump are tested and ok.
All fuses are ok.
I have both + and - into the fuel pump module, but nothing to the pump.
I´m now running out of ideas what to do!!!
I get 2 codes:
P1338 and B1202
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JTIS shows an independent earth to pin 6 of the pump module.
Maybe that's bad?
Another possibility is a defective fuel pressure sensor.
On these cars the pump is driven by a PWM signal using feedback from the pressure sensor.
Do you get anything at all on pins 1 + 2 of the pump module ?
If you haven't got access to a 'scope try using the a/c range of the voltmeter.
There doesn't seem to be a DTC for a bad fuel pressure sensor.
Oddly your B1202 is a faulty fuel level sender but I can't believe that would inhibit the pump.
Maybe that's bad?
Another possibility is a defective fuel pressure sensor.
On these cars the pump is driven by a PWM signal using feedback from the pressure sensor.
Do you get anything at all on pins 1 + 2 of the pump module ?
If you haven't got access to a 'scope try using the a/c range of the voltmeter.
There doesn't seem to be a DTC for a bad fuel pressure sensor.
Oddly your B1202 is a faulty fuel level sender but I can't believe that would inhibit the pump.
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JTIS shows an independent earth to pin 6 of the pump module.
Maybe that's bad?
Another possibility is a defective fuel pressure sensor.
On these cars the pump is driven by a PWM signal using feedback from the pressure sensor.
Do you get anything at all on pins 1 + 2 of the pump module ?
If you haven't got access to a 'scope try using the a/c range of the voltmeter.
There doesn't seem to be a DTC for a bad fuel pressure sensor.
Oddly your B1202 is a faulty fuel level sender but I can't believe that would inhibit the pump.
Maybe that's bad?
Another possibility is a defective fuel pressure sensor.
On these cars the pump is driven by a PWM signal using feedback from the pressure sensor.
Do you get anything at all on pins 1 + 2 of the pump module ?
If you haven't got access to a 'scope try using the a/c range of the voltmeter.
There doesn't seem to be a DTC for a bad fuel pressure sensor.
Oddly your B1202 is a faulty fuel level sender but I can't believe that would inhibit the pump.
I have checked the earth to module and it seems fine. I also get read out from the fuel pressure sensor, but if it is the right numbers I honestly don´t know.
I also have readings from 1-2 from the ECM to the fuel pump module. It pulsing between 1-9 volts and that seems ok as far as I know.
Last edited by jaguarlars; 06-24-2013 at 12:54 PM. Reason: spelling
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From memory about 60 psi for an R.
Here's a detailed explanation of how the system works with thanks to Steve (WhiteXKR)
Under Pressure: Maintaining Ford’s Electronic Returnless Fuel System: Underhood Service
Have you got access to a 'scope ?
Is your fuel gauge reading ?
Here's a detailed explanation of how the system works with thanks to Steve (WhiteXKR)
Under Pressure: Maintaining Ford’s Electronic Returnless Fuel System: Underhood Service
Have you got access to a 'scope ?
Is your fuel gauge reading ?
Last edited by steveinfrance; 06-25-2013 at 02:52 AM.
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Interesting one this.
Try a hard reset (can't hurt)
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...connect-74146/
Keep us informed - you need a 'scope .
Try a hard reset (can't hurt)
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...connect-74146/
Keep us informed - you need a 'scope .
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Without a 'scope to see the square wave you can't tell anything.
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The P1338 tells me that the voltage to is had fluctuated outside the range required. The B1202 not sure this is correct Fuel Sender Circuit. When I was troubleshooting my fuel indication problem I used resisters to fake it into believing the tank was full. Mine being a 1999 is not the same as your 2003 but I would think you could do the same once you find the two leads for the level indicator that is in your tank. This would eliminate the concern that it is part of the problem. I would also look at the integrity of the battery and its connections.
Link to my 1999 fuel level JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
If it were the inertia switch it would turn off power to the engine, doors and a mess of other things.
Link to my 1999 fuel level JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
If it were the inertia switch it would turn off power to the engine, doors and a mess of other things.
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Fuel Pump Issues
Not long ago I had some similar issues with my fuel pump failing, replace two, replaced 4 fuel control units. My mechanic was working down a thread of a fuel temperature monitor which he felt could be sending a shut down signal, if the fuel at the injector rails was too hot. Not sure all the detals, but his shop closed before he was able to completed the job.
In the end the wiring harness between the FCM and the Fuel pump itself had a break, which may have originally been from pulling it through one of the wiring holes in the wall behind the seats.
Hope that helps
mjw
In the end the wiring harness between the FCM and the Fuel pump itself had a break, which may have originally been from pulling it through one of the wiring holes in the wall behind the seats.
Hope that helps
mjw
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