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I have a 2000 S-type 4.0 that has developed MAJOR sreeing problems. 2 weeks ago I changed front wheel hub bearings. Last week I put front brakes on the car. Since then the car has developed "Jerky" steering problems to the point I am scared to drive it. The car wanders all over the road, pulls really bad to either side and you can " feel every crack and bump " in the road. I have inspected the tires (Pirellis as recommended) and they seem to be "cupping" or wearing forward. Is this a sign of suspension problems or does this have anything to do with the steering problems. My Mom drives this car daily and I do not want her driving this until I can work this problem out. Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.
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I would start by checking the whole suspension to make sure it is tight. The lower ball joints are known to have the nut back off of them and they can wallow out the hole in the lower control arm as well as destroy the threads on the ball joint. Jack up the front of the car and feel for play by shaking the tire up and down and side to side.
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mamma, as quartz suggests: Go over your work. Something went awry with the bearing/brake swap.
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I would start by checking the whole suspension to make sure it is tight. The lower ball joints are known to have the nut back off of them and they can wallow out the hole in the lower control arm as well as destroy the threads on the ball joint. Jack up the front of the car and feel for play by shaking the tire up and down and side to side.
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Upon inspection of left front side for anything I had missed when replacing bearing hub assembly and front brakes, I found what I am assuming are brake lines that are collapsed. I am posting pictures to make sure that my assumption is correct.
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silly me, those are fuel lines.
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I have triple checked my work in reguards to the installation og bearing hubs and brakes. I have found nothing that I missed or did wrong. The only thing I have found is a serios wearing of the inside of the front tires. This would be toe-in? My question is could this be the root of the "jerking" problem>
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inner tire wear is too much toe out AS LONG AS SOMETHING IS WORN OUT AND HAS TOO MUCH PLAY!!
This actually makes the car "snow plow" only the wrong way and scrubs the inside of the tires rolling down the road.
I just worked on a Stpye where the owner went though their 2nd set of front tires after front suspension work and 3 alignments from a nameless chain that ryhmes with fire and stone
They were told that the 20's were causing the issue and wanted a dealer to fix and look at it. I told them "no its not the 20's, it that youve been going to someone that cannot even properly diag a simple suspension problem" Her right ball joint nut was backed off and so loose I wouldnt have wanted to drive the car. Its was about to snap off.
And what do you know. Now that they had a good diag of the problem and what things were bad and needed on the car. they left and went right back to firestone to have them fix it cheaper, even though they couldnt do it right the first three times. wasted time, money, and safety
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"cough" stone SUCKS! - I would never, ever trust my Jag (or any vehicle for that matter) to them....
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And what do you know. Now that they had a good diag of the problem and what things were bad and needed on the car. they left and went right back to firestone to have them fix it cheaper, even though they couldnt do it right the first three times. wasted time, money, and safety
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2 weeks ago I changed front wheel hub bearings. Last week I put front brakes on the car. Since then the car has developed "Jerky" steering problems to the point I am scared to drive it.
The short answer is that you need to put the car in front of a pair of professional eyes. It is obvious that it is directly related to the work that you did.
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As recommended by Brutal and Quartz, I re-checked my work and as they had suggested, the ball joint nut on the driver's side had backed off considerably. I tightened the nut and test drove the car. It drives like it used to (perfect!) and the steering wheel is back in alignment. The car no longer pulls in any direction. The only damage I could find otherwise was the wear to the tires. I will replace those with the factory recommended Pirelli's that have always been on the car since it was new. I am also going to replace the shock/strut assembly (on both sides front and rear) since I am sure they have never been replaced either. I will also replace the ball joints and take the car to Bill Knight in Tulsa Oklahoma. The service adviser there, Danny Quigly, is a very reputable and knowledgeable person, and if anything else is wrong with the suspension, will put it back right. I will let them do the alignment as I don't have the equipment or knowledge to attempt this. Thank you guys for your expert and "right on the money" diagnosis. You guys certainly know your Jaguars!
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Awesome! A nice happy ending for your good work on the "S".
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I have verticle links with new ball joints already pressed in for $300.pr if interested
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Did you loosen the ball joint nuts to do bearing and brake work? Just curious as I don't have that type car.
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Did you loosen the ball joint nuts to do bearing and brake work? Just curious as I don't have that type car.
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he shouldnt have and it creates alot more work if you do
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no, I did not loosen the ball joint nuts when I replaced the bearing hub assembly or the brakes. As Quartz suggested, apparently this is a common problem with this model? I have never done any suspension work on this car. The only work I have had done to this car was the replacement of the secondary tensioners, transmission rebuild, regular oil changes, and a set of new tires.
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