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Old 01-19-2017, 12:00 AM
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Hello fellow Jag enthusiast,

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I own a 2001 s type with the 3.0. I had to jump my battery the other morning due to these frigid northwest winters. I went to work and everything was fine. I left work 8 hours later, started up the jag, threw it in reverse and nothing!! I Threw it back in park and tried again and still nothing. I tried throwing it in drive and nothing.

The gear shifter is almost "floating" from gear to gear without any sort of response. It's as if the car is permenently in neutral. That car runs perfectly fine other wise.

Prior to this incident the transmission ran great, smooth as can be. I'm taking it into a local shop on Monday for a diagnoses. I'm hoping to get some general ideas from you guys before I take it in to the shop.

Im not sure if jumping the battery had anything to do with it but it seems like a huge coincidence if not.

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Old 01-19-2017, 12:12 AM
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sounds like the shift cable has fallen off , or broken .
i can't see how jump starting can cause this .
but have a fair idea that (throwing) a gear selector around with a frozen cable sure can .
 
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Sounds like the plastic thingy on the gearlever that the cable connects to has died. Getting common as age creaps in.

I cannot find the link as I type, but someone will post it soon.

It is a simple fix.
 
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Thanks guys! This gives me some ideas moving forward. I'll update my progress.
 
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This is the replacement thingy Jaguar SHIFTER REPAIR KIT.

 
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I must have replaced a few dozen selector lever assys when I worked at the dealer.
Especially when the when the vehicle is parked on an incline. (TSB S307-16)
Cables also got their own TSBs. (S307-06)

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Just got a phone call from my Jaguar mechanic and he said that the transmission issue is internal. He also mentioned how he took one apart 20 years ago and will never do it again. He referred me to a specialist, must be a pain to deal with. I'm not sure throwing 2K to fix the tranny is worth it. Damn, it was running like a dream before. Any ideas??
 
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Bad news for me!! The mechanic said the transmission problem is internal. I've never used this mechanic before but he has a great reputation in my city. He basically told me that he tore apart a jaguar transmission 20 years ago and will never do it again. He recommended taking it to a transmission specialist.


I paid $3,000 for it a few years ago and it has 95,000 miles on it. I need to make some phone calls to see how much it will be to repair/replace. Does anyone have experience with pricing on something like this? Thanks guys!
 
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Anyone have a part number for this part?
 
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[QUOTE=Scottie409;1626880]Anyone have a part number for this part? Sorry I didn't specify part in reply #5 regarding floating gearshift
 
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Originally Posted by Scottie409
Anyone have a part number for this part? Sorry I didn't specify part in reply #5 regarding floating gearshift
Post #5 in this thread has a link to one source. It's Jaguar part number XR817754R.

Amazon even carries it. Just search for that part number. One of their sources only wants $18 for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Jtrieschmann
Bad news for me!! The mechanic said the transmission problem is internal. I've never used this mechanic before but he has a great reputation in my city. He basically told me that he tore apart a jaguar transmission 20 years ago and will never do it again. He recommended taking it to a transmission specialist.
Did you ever get this resolved? For one thing, your mechanic didn't do his homework. The S-Types are light years removed from the Jaguar Dark Ages he may have experienced.

The 5-speed automatic in the '99-02 cars is a Ford 5R55N. I want to say it's 100% Ford, but am not positive. Even if the Jaguar version is slightly different, any transmission shop should be able to easily handle repairs or an overhaul.

Not that it really matters, but I'm also curious which Jaguar transmission gave him fits back then. Many Jags used a variant of the ultra common GM TH350, so any experienced transmission mechanic could rebuild one while blindfolded.
 
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Post #5 in this thread has a link to one source. It's Jaguar part number XR817754R.

Amazon even carries it. Just search for that part number. One of their sources only wants $18 for it.
Appreciate the part number, I didn't see the link as I am a luddite when it comes to computers.
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Did you ever get this resolved? For one thing, your mechanic didn't do his homework. The S-Types are light years removed from the Jaguar Dark Ages he may have experienced.

The 5-speed automatic in the '99-02 cars is a Ford 5R55N. I want to say it's 100% Ford, but am not positive. Even if the Jaguar version is slightly different, any transmission shop should be able to easily handle repairs or an overhaul.

Not that it really matters, but I'm also curious which Jaguar transmission gave him fits back then. Many Jags used a variant of the ultra common GM TH350, so any experienced transmission mechanic could rebuild one while blindfolded.
I spoke with another company about the situation and they didn't seem so alarmed about the idea of working on the tranny. Rough estimate was $400-1200. They think that jumpstarting the vehicle could have short circuited the communication between the transmission and something else. I'll be towing it over to the company next week. Will update ASAP.
 
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Just got some feedback from a local company that specializes in European vehicles. They quoted me around $4,000. Last time I'll buy European.


 

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I suppose someone has looked at the plastic "thingy" to be sure it's not broken?
Don't blame the Europeans, you have a true blue ford box. :-)
 
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Originally Posted by Jtrieschmann
Just got some feedback from a local company that specializes in European vehicles. They quoted me around $4,000. Last time I'll buy European.

Your car has a US-made run of the mill Ford transmission, nothing 'European' about it. ;(
 
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Appreciate the part number, I didn't see the link as I am a luddite when it comes to computers.
Thanks again
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I bought one of the aftermarket shift adapters to replace the worn out nylon one.
I had to use a hone to clean out the bore in the replacement one in order to get it to slide up and down on the stationary shaft and it has helped the shift selection considerably, it seems to be a very complicated way to select gears.
Did the Brits design it?
 
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I understood it to be an automatic. The clue is in the name I think!
 
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Originally Posted by Scottie409
I bought one of the aftermarket shift adapters to replace the worn out nylon one.
I had to use a hone to clean out the bore in the replacement one in order to get it to slide up and down on the stationary shaft and it has helped the shift selection considerably, it seems to be a very complicated way to select gears.
Did the Brits design it?
Dont think so as Ford is an American firm and it is a Ford gearbox.
Here in Europe you can buy these and the ZF gearboxes as second hand and if you have access to a ramp you could fit yourself.
If you look on fleabay they are quite reasonably priced you can even get a refurbished one for 1700 dollars.
 

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