XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 ) 2003 - 2009

Air Suspension 'Reset' ? HELP ..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-19-2017, 09:04 AM
gemjag's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: long island
Posts: 27
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Air Suspension 'Reset' ? HELP ..

2005 Vanden plas... ( NY)
Removed front Air shocks (while replacing Upper Control arms) Everything went back fine and followed Tips on the 'Arnott' / Bilstein video.. Only problem is, Started her up expecting to hear compressor kick in and fill the shocks..? Nothing! Silence..
I'm wondering IF it's because I left the key in the ignition? (Bilstein says to remove key) And / or I never disconnected the battery prior to working on it. ANY ideas on how to Kickstart the air system again ? about to check all the fuses.. Need for work tomorrow! Everything worked fine just prior to work.
any advice much appreciated! GG
 
  #2  
Old 03-19-2017, 09:17 AM
tarhealcracker's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Eustis FL
Posts: 1,922
Received 256 Likes on 218 Posts
Default

Have you tries driving it around for 15/20 minutes?
 
The following users liked this post:
Don B (03-19-2017)
  #3  
Old 03-19-2017, 09:58 AM
paydase's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brussels, BELGIUM
Posts: 1,370
Received 341 Likes on 259 Posts
Default

+1
Drive the car (slowly) for some time.
Also try repeated igition on/off cycles and moving the car.
 
The following users liked this post:
Don B (03-19-2017)
  #4  
Old 03-19-2017, 10:01 AM
gemjag's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: long island
Posts: 27
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Thanks lads.. Will try ( later) n get back!
 
  #5  
Old 03-19-2017, 12:09 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,391
Received 12,737 Likes on 6,379 Posts
Default

Hi GG,

+3 on driving the car to see if it is just in Jacking Mode.

If driving doesn't bring it back to life, I think at least one member had success doing a "hard reset" of the system: disconnect the battery negative cable and hold it against the battery positive cable terminal for a few minutes or more. You don't have to disconnect the positive cable from the battery because the battery will not be in the circuit. This clears some or all of the Keep Alive Memory (KAM) in the Air Suspension Control Module (ASM) and may prompt it to once again recognize the low suspension and run the compressor to repressurize the system.

Please keep us informed.

Cheers,

Don
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Don B:
AD2014 (09-08-2020), EssOess (12-29-2022)
  #6  
Old 03-19-2017, 04:12 PM
gemjag's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: long island
Posts: 27
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Back to Normal !

Thanks for the suggestions.. ( feel daft.. should've tried driving it first!) Reversed it out of garage (30ft) .. then fwd.. back again & let it sit. In a minute or two..heard that lovely sound that only an Air Mattress could love!
lol.. I think in my blocked up, head cold state of mind.. I got paranoid about missing a few steps & thought I could damage the bags.
Next up.. those creaky, groany Front sway bar bushings..


Cheers mates..


Geo G
 
The following 2 users liked this post by gemjag:
Don B (03-19-2017), Leftcoast (02-26-2024)
  #7  
Old 03-19-2017, 04:37 PM
Fraser Mitchell's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Crewe, England
Posts: 9,391
Received 2,430 Likes on 1,940 Posts
Default

Great to hear your "up and running".
 
  #8  
Old 10-17-2019, 06:39 PM
rcode's Avatar
Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 46
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Are you totally serious about holding the negative - battery cable to the + terminal " for a few minutes" ? How have you dealt with the explosion?
 
The following users liked this post:
Billieg (10-20-2019)
  #9  
Old 10-17-2019, 07:34 PM
Wingrider's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Stow Ohio
Posts: 3,262
Received 786 Likes on 664 Posts
Default

Disconnect them both first, wait a few min's, then touch them together.
 
  #10  
Old 10-17-2019, 07:36 PM
Wingrider's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Stow Ohio
Posts: 3,262
Received 786 Likes on 664 Posts
Default

Disconnect both cables, wait 5 min, then touch together
 
  #11  
Old 10-17-2019, 08:00 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,391
Received 12,737 Likes on 6,379 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rcode
Are you totally serious about holding the negative - battery cable to the + terminal " for a few minutes" ? How have you dealt with the explosion?
You actually do not have to disconnect the positive battery cable. Just disconnect the negative cable and touch it to the positive cable still attached to the battery positive post. If you think about it, the battery cells will be completely out of the circuit, so there will be no current flowing through any of the vehicle's circuits except for the very tiny currents from the keep-alive memory capacitors as their charges drain to ground/earth. No explosions or other adverse effects. I've done this many, many times.

Cheers,

Don
 

Last edited by Don B; 10-17-2019 at 11:18 PM.
The following 3 users liked this post by Don B:
AD2014 (09-08-2020), EssOess (12-29-2022), jackra_1 (10-17-2019)
  #12  
Old 10-18-2019, 12:28 PM
Clapton7's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gemjag
2005 Vanden plas... ( NY)
Removed front Air shocks... ANY ideas on how to Kickstart the air system again ? about to check all the fuses.. Need for work tomorrow! Everything worked fine just prior to work.
any advice much appreciated! GG
Hello gemjag,

My advice is to follow "Bilstein"'s instructions on that video, (especially from 07:24 - 08:29):
"Lower the vehicle to the height of 380mm, (front)... then after 2 min. while engine is run - lower the vehicle to the height of 340mm"


And, from https://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/07/...rkshop-manual/ follow page 142 instructions:

 
  #13  
Old 10-18-2019, 01:01 PM
Clapton7's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
  #14  
Old 10-18-2019, 08:23 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,391
Received 12,737 Likes on 6,379 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Clapton7
And, from https://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/07/...rkshop-manual/ follow page 142 instructions:
Hi Clapton7,

My anti-virus program did not like the above link, but the entire pdf X350 Workshop Manual can be safely downloaded in six sections from the How To Quick Links thread on the home page of this X350 forum.

Cheers,

Don
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Don B:
AD2014 (09-08-2020), EssOess (12-29-2022)
  #15  
Old 10-20-2019, 11:46 AM
Clapton7's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Don B
Hi Clapton7, My anti-virus program did not like the above link... Cheers, Don

Hello Don,

Allow me to recommend and forward you to Google's well-known "virustotal.com" website and inspect what do
they think
about the "https://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/07/02/x350-workshop-manual/" link I attached...

And at the same time... to review again who is/are your anti-virus software code writer/s that you are using and maybe
update them for the paragraph's above results.

Regards.



 
  #16  
Old 10-20-2019, 11:29 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,391
Received 12,737 Likes on 6,379 Posts
Default

Members can safely download the X350 Workshop Manual from the Jaguar Forums download area. Here are the links to the six sections:

Table Of Contents

General Information

Chassis

Powertrain

Electrical

Body

Cheers,

Don
 

Last edited by Don B; 10-21-2019 at 11:24 AM.
The following 2 users liked this post by Don B:
AD2014 (09-08-2020), EssOess (12-29-2022)
  #17  
Old 12-11-2022, 07:51 PM
Chris Baccus's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I tried a "hard reset" with the battery and had no luck. I had to just drive the car. It fixed itself once I pulled forward a bit and then backed and did that a couple times as I was turning around in my driveway. It fixed it just after doing that a couple times. All good. Thanks everyone for the tips here.
 
  #18  
Old 12-26-2022, 12:44 PM
BigWhiteTowTruck's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does anyone know anything about a 2003 lincoln navigator this is the only free page i found that will openly let me ask aquestion about my air ride suspension. I replaced my front cv axels and now the suspension wont kick on. it doesnt sound like my air compressor is kicking on. I had it rise one time after my new parts were put on and now its shot to the floor and wont rise. Ive tried leaving it run for 10 minutes and took it slowly down the road for about 15 minutes and still nothing. Any suggestions?
 
  #19  
Old 12-26-2022, 03:34 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,391
Received 12,737 Likes on 6,379 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BigWhiteTowTruck
Does anyone know anything about a 2003 lincoln navigator this is the only free page i found that will openly let me ask aquestion about my air ride suspension. I replaced my front cv axels and now the suspension wont kick on. it doesnt sound like my air compressor is kicking on. I had it rise one time after my new parts were put on and now its shot to the floor and wont rise. Ive tried leaving it run for 10 minutes and took it slowly down the road for about 15 minutes and still nothing. Any suggestions?
Hi BigWhiteTowTruck,

Welcome to the Jaguar Forums!

The first possibility that comes to mind is that the air suspension control module has entered Jacking Mode, which disables the air suspension compressor. On the Jaguar X350, driving the vehicle over 2 or 3 mph will exit Jacking Mode, re-enabling the air suspension. However, the air compressor will not run until vehicle speed exceeds 25mph. But if you start the engine and leave the transmission in Park, the compressor should run and re-charge the system.

Another possibility is that one or both ride height sensors may have been disconnected or damaged in the process of replacing the CV axles. Except for the earliest cars, X350s have only one front ride height sensor.

For a full explanation of the Jaguar X350 air suspension implementation, see this post:

Air Suspension & ECATS System Summary: Components & Operation

Cheers,

Don
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Don B:
AD2014 (12-29-2022), EssOess (12-29-2022)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
alanroberts50
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
37
05-13-2020 10:08 PM
JFNAKI
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
7
08-27-2019 03:35 PM
Nalahung
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
8
09-26-2017 11:40 PM
Rickkk
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
20
03-31-2014 04:36 PM
Drb007
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
32
04-01-2013 12:02 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Air Suspension 'Reset' ? HELP ..



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 PM.