Intelligent stop / start
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Graham
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Considering that it's about the most aggravating and exasperating idea that's come down the pike in a long time, any dealer that won't disable will probably lose the sale. It's one of those things that looks good on paper, but when one realizes that one's whole style of driving needs to change to accommodate this ridiculous bit of "golf cart" technology, It's not a good idea at all. Try escaping as someone is about to rear-end you. You'll never make it. By the way I'll return to the dealer who very easily and very quickly disabled it on my XJ, leaving me with the "yellow light" which I've covered with a bit of black tape. Chalk one up for freedom.
#9
King, I can only suggest you maybe redirect your disgust in the right direction. Please realize all carmakers, not just Jaguar are 'embracing' this technology under regulatory duress. The green folks, the EU and the EPA just love the Stop/Start. It does have some impact on fuel economy, and that's good for CAFE ratings. Nowadays just about everything on a car is put there in response to some regulation.
It isn't yet, but I expect Stop/Start to be mandated at some point, and I really expect the ability to even temporarily turn off the system to be taken away from us.
Abolish the EPA!
It isn't yet, but I expect Stop/Start to be mandated at some point, and I really expect the ability to even temporarily turn off the system to be taken away from us.
Abolish the EPA!
#10
I hear what you're saying, I hate stop-start as much as the next guy.
In the earlier cars with a 2nd battery it's very easy, just disconnect the battery and it's gone, but the later cars with only one battery are all software controlled and you need access in the diagnostic system to change the setting, which is locked out.
There are a few ways of getting around this, but most dealers don't want to go "outside the system" well the ones I've spoken to anyhow.
In the earlier cars with a 2nd battery it's very easy, just disconnect the battery and it's gone, but the later cars with only one battery are all software controlled and you need access in the diagnostic system to change the setting, which is locked out.
There are a few ways of getting around this, but most dealers don't want to go "outside the system" well the ones I've spoken to anyhow.
#11
The fact the one cannot permanently disengage the start/stop is nonsense. At least the F-type would disengage the start/stop in sport mode. I too would like to "go outside the system" to permanently disengage this option in lieu of always having to manually turn it off after every engine start.
#12
How about this idea for better fuel economy. Stop loading up the gasoline with Methanol. A gallon of pure gasoline will take you further than a gallon of ethanol-added fuel. In addition, the fuel/energy expended to plant, harvest, convert and ship the ethanol, far outweighs its usefulness as an additive
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I have to admit that I hated this feature on my XJ, and now I get pissed at myself when the engine cuts off on my "F's", (note pace and type, nut F'n F's...lol), and forget to disengage the switch. I think that it is a rough start and never ever felt good tome on any of my Jags. On the Mrs. Maserati it is smooth as silk, and very much different.
It is the engineering of the eco switch that bothers me, however on balance this is the last of my problems......, and it is my fault for not getting into the habit of 100% of the time disengaging the switch. My bad, and it is what it is. LOVE MY JAGS without question, and it takes a lot more than this to get me to turn away from the engineering.
It is the engineering of the eco switch that bothers me, however on balance this is the last of my problems......, and it is my fault for not getting into the habit of 100% of the time disengaging the switch. My bad, and it is what it is. LOVE MY JAGS without question, and it takes a lot more than this to get me to turn away from the engineering.
#14
How about this idea for better fuel economy. Stop loading up the gasoline with Methanol. A gallon of pure gasoline will take you further than a gallon of ethanol-added fuel. In addition, the fuel/energy expended to plant, harvest, convert and ship the ethanol, far outweighs its usefulness as an additive
Lawrence
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In "Lust" with the F-pace
I have to admit that I hated this feature on my XJ, and now I get pissed at myself when the engine cuts off on my "F's", (note pace and type, nut F'n F's...lol), and forget to disengage the switch. I think that it is a rough start and never ever felt good tome on any of my Jags. On the Mrs. Maserati it is smooth as silk, and very much different.
It is the engineering of the eco switch that bothers me, however on balance this is the last of my problems......, and it is my fault for not getting into the habit of 100% of the time disengaging the switch. My bad, and it is what it is. LOVE MY JAGS without question, and it takes a lot more than this to get me to turn away from the engineering.
It is the engineering of the eco switch that bothers me, however on balance this is the last of my problems......, and it is my fault for not getting into the habit of 100% of the time disengaging the switch. My bad, and it is what it is. LOVE MY JAGS without question, and it takes a lot more than this to get me to turn away from the engineering.
Maybe you can tell me a little something that you don't like about the F-Pace, thereby tempering my anticipation a bit. I envy you!
Good Luck
King Fala
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[QUOTE=KingFala;1511190]I envy you. To tell the truth, around the Charlotte area I haven't seen many of them, and when I have they were all "Black". Did you select the color or did they all come out "black"?
I built it and chose Black.
Maybe you can tell me a little something that you don't like about the F-Pace, thereby tempering my anticipation a bit.
There really isn't anything I can pick on that I don't like at all. it is beating my expectations all of the way around. OK, let me pull something out of my head that I don't like on any car. Auto Start/Stop. It is annoying, but I can turn it off on the F-Pace when I start the engine. Problem is, I CONTINUE TO FOGET!!!! That is the only thing that I don't like, but can live with it.
I envy you!
Someday you will figure it out and get what you want. Like I tell others, don't agonize over the configurations. I decided to just "GO FOR IT", as my son said you continue to look for the good deal, and don't get exactly what you want. He was right, and I built the F-Type R, and also the F-Pace S. I have what I want, thus why I don't have anything "yet" that I don't like about this vehicle, and trying to help you out here, but don't want to make stuff up!
Good Luck to you, and in time....!
I built it and chose Black.
Maybe you can tell me a little something that you don't like about the F-Pace, thereby tempering my anticipation a bit.
There really isn't anything I can pick on that I don't like at all. it is beating my expectations all of the way around. OK, let me pull something out of my head that I don't like on any car. Auto Start/Stop. It is annoying, but I can turn it off on the F-Pace when I start the engine. Problem is, I CONTINUE TO FOGET!!!! That is the only thing that I don't like, but can live with it.
I envy you!
Someday you will figure it out and get what you want. Like I tell others, don't agonize over the configurations. I decided to just "GO FOR IT", as my son said you continue to look for the good deal, and don't get exactly what you want. He was right, and I built the F-Type R, and also the F-Pace S. I have what I want, thus why I don't have anything "yet" that I don't like about this vehicle, and trying to help you out here, but don't want to make stuff up!
Good Luck to you, and in time....!
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#18
The whole stop\start thing is designed to save fuel and co2 and all that jazz but I'm looking at what it's eventually going to cost you a new starter.
The $26.48 you save not idling over a year won't exactly even out with parts and labour of eventually replacing it.
Besides its extremely annoying.
The $26.48 you save not idling over a year won't exactly even out with parts and labour of eventually replacing it.
Besides its extremely annoying.
#19
The whole stop\start thing is designed to save fuel and co2 and all that jazz but I'm looking at what it's eventually going to cost you a new starter.
The $26.48 you save not idling over a year won't exactly even out with parts and labour of eventually replacing it.
Besides its extremely annoying.
The $26.48 you save not idling over a year won't exactly even out with parts and labour of eventually replacing it.
Besides its extremely annoying.
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