Hello,

I currently own a MY2016 f Type Base (VAP tuned).
It currently has around 35k km on it. Went through one set of brake pads till now.
It came with the standard brakes (not the bigger super performance brakes).
Due to quite intensive driving (some track use as well) I am looking to upgrade the braking system if possible.
Does anybody know if it's possible to put the bigger brake discs on the car? I understand this would require a change of callipers as well. My question is if that's even possible or would it mess with the car's ABS system?
I saw wortec (a company from the UK) does a nice aftermarket brake system with significant weight reduction as well compared to the OEM parts.
My local Jaguar dealer is willing to do the change, but as they never had a case like this are unsure if it's a simple replacement or not....
Any information would be greatly appreciated

 

Have a look at this thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...f-type-197525/

 

Bigger brakes also aren't compatible with 18" wheels, if that's what you have.

 

Thanks Arne, had a look at that thread and OzXFR's thread about upgrading the brakes. While not completely the same situation it does sound doable.
now, just to find someone who does a whole upgraded brake kit for the f-type. I emailed wortec 2 days ago but still no answer.
And yes, my summer set up is 20" wheels and winter is 19" so that shouldn't be an issue,but thanks

 

Guy,
The 2016 base came with the "performance" brakes as standard, 355 mm front and 326 mm rear, is that what you have?
If so you need to upgrade both ends = very expensive, and I have never heard of anyone upgrading the 355 mm fronts to 380 mm so we don't know for sure if or how easy/difficult it is to do, although I strongly suspect it is fairly straightforward.
Or did yours come with the optional "high performance" brakes that are standard on the V6 S, 380 mm front and 326 mm rear?
If so you only need to upgrade the rears to the 376 mm, same as I did, a helluva lot cheaper than doing the fronts as well and a relatively easy DIY.

 

Yep, unfortunately I have the bog standard performance 355 mm fronts and 326 rears (should be called the no performance).
I noticed someone did an upgrade on their f-pace with a company called ap racing so I will try contacting them as well.
I realise it's gonna be quite expensive, but hey, braking is important

 

Did the existing pads work OK at the track (despite rapid wear)?

If so, it may be worthwhile to simply experiment with a higher performance (track) pad from one of the well known brake suppliers (Hawk comes to mind.)

Just be advised that track brake compounds need to be warmed up to be effective. Important for that first stop in a cold winter's morning!

 

The existing brakes worked relatively ok at the track. I have the original discs with the porterfield r4s pads.
They stopped the car just fine, don't get me wrong, and have a somewhat better feel than the original TRW pads (which felt more like an on/off button than a pedal), but brake fade became extremely noticeable a bit too soon in my opinion.
My thinking is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that bigger discs will help with the fade, and maybe better callipers will help with stopping power as well as saving a bit of weight hopefully.

 

^^^ In that scenario you are correct. (Although, "R4s" pads are the STREET compound, you could try a more aggressive type like R4.)

Sometimes a change in driving style will help, too. "Brakes are for sissies" (<--- Don't say I told you that.)

 

You sound like my race instructor... "learn to carry more speed and you'll need your brakes less...."
Then again he's a madman with a Caterham

 

Have I ever had you as a student? My favorite words: FASTER and BRAKE GENTLY, BUT LATER.



Next time, point out that a Caterham is speed-limited by its stone-age aerodynamics...

 

 

I wonder if the front spindels would be different..? If not, an eventual upgrade with OEM parts would be pretty straightforward.
Do have the std brakes as well, and been considering looking in to an upgrade too.
Can't do too fancy things though due to the technical restrictions down here.

Might become a winter project...

 

I contacted several companies that offer bigger brake kits, so far no luck as they all say they have nothing that would fit an f Type.
Hopefully I get an email back from Wortec as they seem my best bet...

 

What they mean is that they have not developed a kit, not necessarily they do not have parts that could fit.

For one of the cars I once had, I based upon available info selected and bought calipers, designed my own brackets, and had custom 2-piece discs with alloy hats made to my own design.
No need to order at least x sets of discs, no deposit needed, and cheaper than Wortec.

But for the F, I cannot go full custom, so if I were to upgrade, I'll go for OEM parts.

 

I quickly checked some parts online.
If I'm correct, the front spindle/knuckle is the same for both base and S, different for the AWD's and V8's, which makes sense because of for instance the additional drive shafts.
To avoid the need to design and make a different spindle for each possible car/brake combination, dedicated brackets - that connect caliper to spindle -were made - after all, a way easier and cheaper solution (keep the production line in mind too).
Those brackets are available in different colors, from unpainted to silver, black, and red.
Long story short, it should be possible to convert a 355mm brake system to 380mm with OEM parts (brackets/calipers/discs), or use any kit designed as a replacement for an OEM 380mm system (in combination with the specific 380mm brackets).

I'll dig deeper into it when I have some more time...

 

Thank you for all of this information, it's been more than helpful!
If you have any more advice, please do share