Can A Guy Get An Oil Pressure Gauge?
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Can A Guy Get An Oil Pressure Gauge?
I can't believe the successor to the E-Type doesn't have an oil pressure gauge and I have to admit it is really driving me nuts not knowing what my oil pressure is. Kind of diminishes me as a car guy somehow. I have heard rumors of an app that will give us an oil pressure reading, is this true?
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I can believe the successor to the E-Type doesn't have an oil pressure gauge and I have to admit it is really driving me nuts not knowing what my oil pressure is. Kind of diminishes me as a car guy somehow. I have heard rumors of an app that will give us an oil pressure reading, is this true?
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Per the Workshop Manual a couple of special tools are needed to check/test/measure the oil pressure, see attached PDF:
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So...we could permanently install tool 303-1451 in place of the filter housing and have a pressure tap available for an analog or digital sensor.
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It offers the opportunity to avoid catastrophic destruction of the engine due to failing components that can otherwise be fixed (oil filter, oil pump, engine bearings, clogged passages, etc.)
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We need a JLR tech to "borrow" these special tools and figure out what works and what doesn't, is it doable, can the reading be sent to the OBD2 port and/or some other data reader (eg the Torque app), and at what cost etc etc.
My guess is that like most things JLR it could be done but the cost/benefit ratio would be through the roof.
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* you have enough oil to create flow through the pump
* you have a pump strong enough to suck oil from the sump and pump it high enough to lubricate the highest parts of the engine
* there is not enough sludge build up to impede internal oil flow
* high oil pressure may also indicate poor flow from cold oil, a partial blockage or overfill, or most often, a bad sending unit or regulator/relief valve
Very low or zero oil pressure is cause to immediately shut off the engine to avoid engine damage or impending seizure.
All that said, a lot of modern cars have more of a 1/0 sensor than a pressure gauge, to build cars as cheaply as possible. The F-Type cleverly derives that 1/0 from other sensors, presumably to save even more money.
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TorquePro is the $5? (I forget now, but its cheap) version of the free Torque phone app. It connects to most if not all bluetooth OBD2 readers. In theory, and in every other car, you leave your bluetooth dongle on the OBD2 plug under the dash and it transmits everthing the ECU knows to the phone app. Then you can diagnose codes, reset check engine lights, and what we are talking about here, display info using prest or customized gauges and gauge sets.
Its really no different than what new cars do to create their primary digital gauge clusters and display options.
The problem is that many F-Types will shut down if you attach an OBD2 reader to the car's port. No one seems to know exactly why. Mine did and the dealer had no clue how to fix it, but covered the $3200 bill under warranty which was probably padded by $3100, since they did nothing but load the wrong ECU software, ruining the exaust note until I taught them how to fix it.
So my $11 reader works great with my other cars, but is useless with my Jags.
Dont get too exited about the performance mapping shown below, it doesn't work at all because its dependent on phone calculations on slightly delayed data and manually input weight data. The performance timers are worthless too. I says I make something like 1200hp in my SUV.
Its really no different than what new cars do to create their primary digital gauge clusters and display options.
The problem is that many F-Types will shut down if you attach an OBD2 reader to the car's port. No one seems to know exactly why. Mine did and the dealer had no clue how to fix it, but covered the $3200 bill under warranty which was probably padded by $3100, since they did nothing but load the wrong ECU software, ruining the exaust note until I taught them how to fix it.
So my $11 reader works great with my other cars, but is useless with my Jags.
Dont get too exited about the performance mapping shown below, it doesn't work at all because its dependent on phone calculations on slightly delayed data and manually input weight data. The performance timers are worthless too. I says I make something like 1200hp in my SUV.
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Would you be satisfied with a measurement of the real-time Oil Level in the sump and even a calculated volume in Litres, in your Torque Pro App?
And also temperatures via Torque App for Engine Oil, Transmission Oil, E-Diff Oil?
If so, we might have something for you very soon...
And also temperatures via Torque App for Engine Oil, Transmission Oil, E-Diff Oil?
If so, we might have something for you very soon...
@ Cambo - And what would be your choice of dongle for the OBD port that doesn't stuff the ECU shut down procedure? I'm trying to gauge which type/model to get.
If you don't want to hijack the thread as I have done...I'm here asking the question:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...r-cars-213150/
TIA
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Well, if those old beliefs still applied, the voltmeter wouldn't work anyway! Most of the electricals probably come from elsewhere in the EU these days ....
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I used a little digital volt meter that plugs into the lighter socket to figure out the obd battery drain issue.
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