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If I need new rear hubs to fit carbon ceramic brakes to an SVR could I use the hubs from a XKR- S GT. Would they be the same as the carbon ceramic hubs on a SVR?
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Just to clarify the terminology, we're talking about the cast alloy knuckle, in the parts catalogue this is called a "hub carrier"

The SVR ones are unique, not the same as the XKR-S GT. You really wouldn't want the GT ones anyhow as they require the additional bracket to mount the main caliper and the park brake caliper, and they cost an absolute fortune.

SVR hub carriers to suit Carbon Ceramic brakes are;

Left T2R22288
Right T2R21965

353 great british pounds each retail in the UK.

The hubs, where the wheels bolt on, are unique to the SVR, not the same as the R, V6, or other models. But the same hub is used on the SVR for steel or ceramic brakes.
 
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Doesn't the hub and hub carrier come as an assembled unit? Sorry for the confusion.
 

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If that is a picture from an XKR-S GT (I think it might be, can kind of see the handbrake cable), then i guess Jaguar fitted SVR hub carriers to them but if so then I presume only on the 2nd batch of cars that were built.

Because that's an SVR hub carrier, but the first batch of GT's had regular F-Type hub carriers with the additional bracket, and that's what's shown in the parts catalogue for the GT.

With such a limited run of basically hand-assembled cars in two separate production lots, they probably decided to save some money one the second round and use the SVR hub carriers and couldn't be bothered updating the parts catalogue.
 

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Doesn't the hub and hub carrier come as an assembled unit? Sorry for the confusion.
There is a hub listed as a spare part specifically for 575PS/700Nm cars (which is the SVR right? or maybe they mean the Project 7?)

The drawing of the hub carrier of the SVR shows the hub on the carrier, so I guess maybe when you buy the hub carrier, it includes the hub already?

Parts catalogue is not really that clear.

There is no specific hub carrier shown for the Project 7, so I don't know...
 

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This seems like it's going to be more work than I anticipated doing the conversion. With so many variations ordering and assembling all of the parts could become expensive and time consuming, especially if I order the wrong parts or the carbon ceramic rotors arrive damaged.
 

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Originally Posted by Cambo View Post

The hubs, where the wheels bolt on, are unique to the SVR, not the same as the R, V6, or other models. But the same hub is used on the SVR for steel or ceramic brakes.
Does this mean that if we were to swap out the carrier, we would have to swap to an SVR hub as well?
 

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For me, it was an adventure in proving I could do it. If you cannot park the car and work through the process, it might be best to not attempt. My approach was that I was willing to take the car off the road and assemble part by part as I researched and found the next missing part. Lots of patience with me and my local dealer parts guy/gal. Total project took a couple months of evenings and weekends in the dead of winter in a cold garage on jack stands. Maybe that helps your decision making. My experience is Jag has no interest in us doing this ourselves nor their dealers doing it for you. So, you are kind of on your own, but the forum will get you through it. Cambo was also of great assistance to me.

Lastly, I am now studying the possibility of building up an XE which would likely be an entirely new ball of wax as I am sure there will be even less info as to
how the brakes were integrated onto the Project 8. On a closing note, I have never experienced more stopping power than with CCB and I have never had them fade even in very hard mountain runs for over an hour at a time. Of course track use would be a better test, but tracking is not in my world.

Good luck with your decision making.
 
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First post here.

Can I say what a great tread, thank you. Great to see people doing their own R&D, always great.

While researching this, do you happen to know if there are any part numbers on the Brembo calipers rather than Jaguar part number? also do you know if other car makers use these callipers?

I already have CC setup however I am looking into purchasing some brake pads, just wondering if I can get them at a sensible price from another supplier.

Interesting reading about Surfacetransforms as an aftermarket supplier of CC brakes will contact them and see if they do discs for the F type now.
 
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Originally Posted by NickXb787 View Post
First post here.

Can I say what a great tread, thank you. Great to see people doing their own R&D, always great.

While researching this, do you happen to know if there are any part numbers on the Brembo calipers rather than Jaguar part number? also do you know if other car makers use these callipers?

I already have CC setup however I am looking into purchasing some brake pads, just wondering if I can get them at a sensible price from another supplier.

Interesting reading about Surfacetransforms as an aftermarket supplier of CC brakes will contact them and see if they do discs for the F type now.
No magic in the brembo’s on the Jag. They are standard off the shelf units. I believe PAGID makes a good CC pad. You can contact them and show them your pad to make sure the replacement is correct.
 
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Thanks for that will do some calls and see what I can get
 
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Originally Posted by usgpru27 View Post


No magic in the brembo’s on the Jag. They are standard off the shelf units. I believe PAGID makes a good CC pad. You can contact them and show them your pad to make sure the replacement is correct.

have you contacted them? Do you have a part number?
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Not had a chance yet been out of the country for a while, hope to get onto it next week when I am back.

other option of course is to go the other way from ceramic to steel, would hate to do it but could save ££££
 
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Nickxb787 why do you need new pads? How many miles on your brakes? Are you sure you need them?
 
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have you contacted them? Do you have a part number?
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No I have not. Again. These are standard calipers. You can contact PAGID and they will match you up. May need to take a picture / measure / trace your existing. Should not be hard to get.
 
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I've done some searching and the JLR part numbers for the CCM brake pads are:
Front T2R11420
Rear T2R11424
As mentioned elsewhere they cost a squillion.
BUT, the exact same brakes and pads are/were used on the 2014/2015 XKR-S GT, and the Brembo part numbers for the pads are:
Front 8994-D1763
Rear 8995-D1764
However I have not found any sellers let alone prices for these pads other than Alibaba who want a minimum order of 500!
 
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I don’t need them yet only done 10,000 miles but as always I prefer to be ready when they are needed, I did pick up a set of so called new pads from eBay but when I received them they had loads of small cracks within the material, sent them back but took photos and think I took a drawing, will check.
 
 
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