I may cause a riot trying to compare a Nissan with a Jaguar, but in looking at the specs of the 2023 Z with the 'older' P380's/R-Dynamics -- they seem to match up a lot. Weight, length/width/height, and even some of the internal specs too.

I can't seem to find a site that does a full side by side comparison. Has anyone here looked at the two more closely and /or do folks have any thoughts from an engine/clutch perspective as to how the two would match up?

 

The GR Supra isn't much different. If you compare the numbers, the GR Supra is the better purchase. However, car purchases are not "smart" purchases unless you are buying Chevy Volts. They are emotional purchases to pick whatever moves you.

 

One of these two cars is beautiful and one is not. Both are fast…let’s see…hmmmm…fast? Or fast and beautiful? The Nissan looks like a clumsy lego version of the F-Type.

As a point of interest, Jaguar Canada is providing ONLY the V8 engine (at two different HP levels) in the 2022 F-Type. The 4 cylinder version obviously went nowhere. But not offering the V6 is a bit of a mystery.

 

The decision to only offer the 8 must impact sales in countries where annual taxes are substantially more on larger engine vehicles.
I admit I do day dream about the R but my mind says the R-Dynamic is more than enough car.
I simply never get the opportunity to explore the full potential of even the P380.
Best I have managed so far is a few brief 100mph+ highway stints.
Not like being in Germany where I used to drive well in excess of that.

 

Not sure it's that obvious that the Nissan Z doesn't have its own beauty ????

 

The comparison is a bit unfair because the F Type is still one of the best looking cars around regardless of the $$. But for the money the 370Z has good looks and the Z cars have decent heritage as well, and I would imagine that it will end up being cheap to mod as there would be a market for the mods. The supra might be a better car (I've never driven either) but in my eyes it isnt a thing of beauty.

If I had to get out of my f Type I'd at least take the Z for a drive.

 

Spend new Nissan money on a CPO R. Not even a contest.

 

I dont disagree that the F Type is a much better car, but if you are wanting a manual (which the OP does and which i would too if I was starting again) the R is out of the equation.

 

Would love to have the new Z to go between these two, but I'm struggling to justify having three two-seater sports cars.

 

Lani Kai,
I still have my '78 280Z 5spd, purchased new in 1978. I never drive it because it feels like an "old" car. By '78, Datsun had removed the quilted vinyl hatch lining and replaced it with hard plastic interlocking panels that never stop creaking. And the cars never had much power, but boy do they still look nice. I am going to have mine restored this year, replacing the entire interior, upgrading engine output (or maybe doing the Chevy small block V8 exchange), and then maybe I'll enjoy driving it a bit more. My much older Pantera, after 24 years of ownership and a full restoration/modification is finally a car I can drive and enjoy every week as I do now. Only took a quarter century of ownership to accomplish. As for the New Z vs the F-type, I haven't looked closely at the new Z yet, but there are very few cars on the road from the modern era that match the F-type's aesthetics. As for the Supra (or any other Toyota/Lexus product), what an abomination to look at. I don't know how they drive but you still have to look at it before you get it.

And by the way,I really like the aftermarket front bumper and front splitter you have on the Z, care to share any info on them? Any other upgrades worth mentioning?

 

I think the new Z is pretty in a different way and I'm pretty interested in owning one, especially a Nismo version. My brother has a 350Z Nismo and I really enjoy that car. It's a different feeling machine than the F-Type, the power delivery is different, the way it responds is different. For me, it wouldn't be a replacement for the F-Type, just a different car for different moods. I also have a 91 300ZX and have always liked Z cars, though, and I love Nissan's engineering approach.

I think I'd have a really tough time trading my F-Type for one, though. The Jag just has so much character and is so special and unusual (at least around here). It transports me to somewhere else when I drive it, to that Clarkson video where he's blasting through Scotland with the top down. In the new Z car, I think every drive would put me in Initial D, drifting around the corners on my way down Mt Fuji. Both are good places

 

Thanks, it's an MSA Type 2: https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/P...02a01b/50-1409
Also available as a kit including side skirts and rear bumper. If I had to do it over I would probably go with the 240Z small bumpers instead. When I acquired the car it had a beat-up urethane splitter and the park bench bumper in the rear in poor condition.
Mechanically, it's almost entirely stock. Maybe one day I ditch the Bosch fuel injection and go for carbs... Now that the car is no longer in California and subject to their draconian emissions regulations I have many more options available to me.

 

My car is still entirely stock with the large steel and rubber bumpers, front and rear. But yours looks very nice. I'll have some decisions to make before I get started.
Thanks again, and I'm in California so I can't go too crazy. Already, my Pantera exceeds the new decibel levels allowed, so that every Sunday when I drive it, I could potentially get a ticket just for driving.